EB 2012-04-30 transcript

NOTE: All log times are in Central Time. 20:33 < JMcleod> alright, who is here? 20:33 < CCitizen> I'm around 20:33 < RLim> I am here 20:35 < JMcleod> only 3, lets wait and see if others show up :) 20:35 < JMcleod> gonna try naming em 20:35 < JMcleod> scshunt 20:35 < JMcleod> TravisMc_ 20:35 < JMcleod> TeamColtra 20:35 < JMcleod> jhowell 20:35 < JMcleod> is xmux part of exec board? 20:36 < CCitizen> nope 20:36 < JMcleod> Quorum is majority of voting members present right? 20:37 < CCitizen> I think so 20:37 < JMcleod> so we would need at least one more 20:37 < CCitizen> wait lemme see 20:38 < CCitizen> Sean, JM, Ric, Travis, Shawn, Me... technically 3 people would be enough to do things 20:38 < CCitizen> oh wait Jeremy 20:38 < JMcleod> isnt jhowell also part? 20:38 < CCitizen> yeah one more 20:39 < JMcleod> well we can wait until 9:50 before calling it 20:39 < CCitizen> Do we have anything we need to go over? 20:40 < JMcleod> I dont know, I missed last week's meeting 20:40 < JMcleod> No emails went out 20:41 < JMcleod> however shouldnt we have a vote on constitution amendments sometime this month? 20:42 < RLim> yay 20:42 < JMcleod> good we're 4 :) 20:42 < RLim> oh yeah the constitution vote 20:43 < CCitizen> yay Shawn is here :D 20:43 < JMcleod> Ok do we have an order of business for tonight? 20:44 < RLim> are we using Mumble? 20:44 < JMcleod> If we have something to discuss ;) 20:44 I can't use mumble, I'm on mobile. Feel free to do it without me though. 20:45 < JMcleod> we cant 20:45 < JMcleod> youre the quorum 20:45 < JMcleod> :) 20:45 < RLim> nah that's fine. Let's try to make the meeting go by quickly. Staying up late every Monday is not fun. :P 20:45 < RLim> Shawn meant mumble 20:45 < RLim> ^ JMcleod 20:46 < JMcleod> Alright then, lets at least start by reviewing last weeks minutes 20:46 < JMcleod> I know, we cant be on mumble :) 20:46 < RLim> yes 20:47 < RLim> http://wiki.pirateparty.ca/index.php/EB_2012-04-23_minutes 20:49 < JMcleod> Ok so anything to change? 20:49 < RLim> hmm I am missing tally of votes on the last motion 20:50 < JMcleod> What happened with this motion: Sean Hunt moved "that we decide to seek an individual to replace the Fund as the chief agent of the Party." 20:51 < RLim> yeah trying to retrieve the log 20:51 yo, i'm here. just 20:51 quiet 20:51 < JMcleod> oh hi quiet man, we're reviewing minutes of last meeting 20:51 yeah i got myself caughtup 20:52 < TeamColtra> I am here 20:52 < TeamColtra> ish 20:52 < TeamColtra> Actually no, sorry I have to go for 30 minutes. I will be back then. Sorry. 20:53 < JMcleod> Any business travis or jhowell 20:53 none here 20:53 < CCitizen> I think we were looking at replacing the NPO directors or something... like Jake was going to be the Chief Agent or something 20:53 I'm happy to report the last meeting of the IT committee was pretty successful 20:53 < TeamColtra> I want to discuss moving the IT Committee into the IT Committee but again, I will be gone for 30 minutes 20:54 < TeamColtra> :P if you guys solve everything before I get back don't hold up.. but I am not expecting you will 20:54 < RLim> sorry for the delay. The motion was postponed to today 20:54 < JMcleod> Oh ok then :) 20:54 < JMcleod> Well Travis, I have 1 thing up to now :P 20:54 < RLim> refresh 20:54 < RLim> updated 20:55 < JMcleod> Ok thanks, so anythign else to change? 20:56 < JMcleod> Alright then, minutes are approved. 20:58 < JMcleod> So 1st order of business: That we decide to seek an individual to replace the Fund as the chief agent of the Party. 20:58 < JMcleod> Can someone update me on what that is? 21:00 < JMcleod> Well if not then we'll have to move it to next week again until Sean is here since it was his motion. 21:00 < RLim> 00:10 And the argument I have is this: 21:00 < RLim> 00:11 Adding a corporation is another layer of bureacracy and one that really isn't welcome right now. 21:00 < RLim> 00:11 < Nuitari> it also makes dealing with banks much easier 21:00 < RLim> 00:11 < CCitizen> Doesnt making an individual the chief agent instead of the NPO basically tie the party's finances to their own? 21:00 < RLim> 00:11 It does make dealing with the banks somewhat easier, yes. 21:00 < RLim> 00:12 But banks have systems for dealing with non-personal non-corporate accounts. 21:01 < RLim> 00:12 < Nuitari> scshunt: if the last election is anything to go by, most branches are clueless about those rules 21:01 < RLim> 00:15 < CCitizen> Probably easier to keep the NPO... what if whoever takes on the job of Chief Agent screws up and wants to leave... would be a pain to untangle the mess right? 21:01 < RLim> 00:15 < Nuitari> keeping the npo would avoid having to get a new bank account 21:01 < RLim> 00:15 CCitizen: If we keep the NPO, there is not one chief agent. 21:01 < RLim> 00:15 well there is 21:01 < RLim> 00:15 but it's a corporation. 21:01 < RLim> 00:15 < Nuitari> signatories of the corporation do the work 21:01 < RLim> heh sorry for that. Recap of the discussion 21:02 < JMcleod> yeah thanks :) 21:03 < Nuitari> hi 21:03 < JMcleod> Hi Stephane 21:03 < RLim> hi 21:04 < Nuitari> We will have to open a new bank account and a new credit card processing account if we dissolve the npo 21:04 < RLim> so I guess the issue is do we drop NPO in favour of appointing an individual as Chief Agent 21:04 < Nuitari> PayPal will also likely suspend the operations until everything is resolved on the name 21:05 < JMcleod> And in what way does a NPO disadvantage us over a Chief Agent 21:05 < CCitizen> So yeah NPO is probably the best way to handle things 21:05 < Nuitari> also banks have procedures for NPOs and their staff know it 21:05 < JMcleod> Well thats the feel im getting from this 21:05 < Nuitari> for agents (liek for a candidate), it was hard a a few agents had issues getting accounts set up 21:05 < Nuitari> for the NPO there is added paperwork: 21:05 < Nuitari> 1. T2 21:06 < Nuitari> 2. QC equivalent of T2 21:06 < Nuitari> 3. Annual summary federal 21:06 < Nuitari> 4. Annual summary QC (this is online I think now) 21:06 < Nuitari> there is an annual 30$ fee with the federal summary 21:07 < Nuitari> the t2 and qc t2 take about an hour to do once the accounting is finished 21:08 < Nuitari> we are also supposed to hold an annual meeting 21:09 < Nuitari> and there will be work involved into bringing the corporation up to the new law but it shouldn't be that bad 21:10 < Nuitari> changing the bank account is going to be a hassle 21:10 < Nuitari> changing the credit card processor might be impossible 21:10 < Nuitari> could be expensive too are there are signup fees usually 21:11 < JMcleod> So NPO = 30$ + 2hours more than Chief Agent? 21:11 < Nuitari> yeah 21:11 < TeamColtra> Back 21:12 < Nuitari> JMcleod: most of the work is built in EC and won't change 21:12 < JMcleod> wb Travis (we are disucssing that we decide to seek an individual to replace the Fund as the chief agent of the Party.) 21:12 < TeamColtra> Have we decided not to use an NPO? 21:13 < RLim> no 21:13 < RLim> still discussing 21:13 < Nuitari> the agent does need 3 officers 21:13 < TeamColtra> Nuitari: but the agent is an officer himself, correct? 21:13 < Nuitari> and there are procedures in place for the hit by a bus factor 21:13 < TeamColtra> So 2 more 21:13 < JMcleod> Thats the thing, we didnt decide that, so essentially, its built into the question. Ill rewrite the motion comprehensively 21:14 < Nuitari> TeamColtra: all 3 could be agents 21:14 < Nuitari> it all depends how the signatories are setup 21:14 < RLim> and the last motion was from TRavis to appoint us 21:14 < TeamColtra> Which I stand by 21:14 < Nuitari> all 3 officers could be doing the work on behalf of the chief agent that is the fund 21:15 < JMcleod> The motion is: That we drop the NPO and seek an individual to replace the Fund as the chief agent of the Party. 21:15 < TeamColtra> Is there anyone actually in favour of that? 21:15 < TeamColtra> It sounds like all negatives 21:17 < JMcleod> Well, it was Sean's motion and he is not here, but Nuitari was quite informative 21:17 < RLim> I think we have the quorum to vote on it 21:17 < JMcleod> So if there is not any more discussion/motions, we'll put it to a vote 21:18 < Nuitari> who would be the 3 individuals? 21:18 < JMcleod> We can decide that after 21:18 < Nuitari> ok 21:18 < TeamColtra> right now: Jacob Daynes, Ric Lim, and Patrick Fitzgerald 21:18 < RLim> well Travis moved to support appointment of three individuals. me, Patrick and Jake 21:18 < TeamColtra> (proposed) 21:19 < RLim> ok JMcleod 21:19 < JMcleod> Oh thats what the Officers part is :) ok 21:19 < TeamColtra> So if we go to vote, my plan will be to vote against it, and make a new motion propsing those three to take over the NPO 21:20 < JMcleod> The motion is the following: "That we drop the NPO and seek an individual to replace the Fund as the chief agent of the Party." - All in favor say aye, all against say nay 21:20 < RLim> I think we have to discuss the appointment first? I just have something to say more on that 21:20 < TeamColtra> Nay 21:20 < RLim> nay 21:20 Nay 21:20 < CCitizen> nay 21:21 < CCitizen> I'm pretty sure none of us really want to ditch the NPO 21:21 nay 21:21 < JMcleod> nay 21:21 < JMcleod> Ok motion is rejected. 21:22 < JMcleod> Any other business 21:22 < JMcleod> I know Travis had some 21:22 < TeamColtra> Well now I have two 21:22 < JMcleod> Well pick one and make a motion 21:22 < TeamColtra> Obviously we need to staff the NPO since we still have it 21:22 < TeamColtra> that's most important 21:23 < TeamColtra> I move to appoint Jacob Daynes, Ric Lim, and Patrick Fitzgerald officers of the NPO 21:24 < JMcleod> Ok Travis McCrea moves to appoint Jacob Daynes, Ric Lim, and Patrick Fitzgerald officers of the NPO 21:24 < JMcleod> Any discussion? 21:24 < RLim> yeah 21:24 < JMcleod> go ahead :) 21:25 < RLim> Well I was going to say no since I was afraid that I might not have time. I'll be working on few major projects in my spare time. 21:25 < Nuitari> it might help if there is someone in the montreal region 21:26 < JMcleod> You're in the Montreal region :P 21:26 < RLim> I have no problem with my secretary position and helping out in social media. but just concern that I might be a dead wood at NPO 21:26 < Nuitari> I'm quitting 21:26 < TeamColtra> JMcleod: is in quebec :D 21:26 < Nuitari> also, 3 is the minimum, there could be more officers 21:27 < JMcleod> I know Steph, and I am near montreal, but im not sure what exactly the NPO is supposed to do, so I dont see myself there unfortunately 21:28 < Nuitari> issue the receipts, pay for the stuff that's needed, process the mail 21:28 < JMcleod> Id have to be organized, thats not me 21:28 < RLim> yeah and our address is in Montreal 21:29 < TeamColtra> We /can/ chagne the address 21:29 < JMcleod> Also, my gf is pregnant, so time will be an issue in the future 21:29 < Nuitari> ah that it will be 21:29 < Nuitari> TeamColtra: yeah, we'll need to publish a story in the gazette (a few lines, did it before) 21:29 < Nuitari> there is also some fee to it 21:30 < JMcleod> What is the fee? 21:31 < TeamColtra> Usually something nominal like >$30 21:31 < TeamColtra> err <$30 21:31 < JMcleod> Oh... yeah we can afford that I think :P 21:31 < Nuitari> yeah 21:31 < Nuitari> I think it's 25 or 35$, not sure 21:32 < JMcleod> So we need 3, RLim isnt sure he wants to do this... awaiting amendment or a move to vote 21:33 < JMcleod> Do we have to decide the people right now? 21:33 < TeamColtra> Here is the thing 21:33 < Nuitari> would help 21:33 < TeamColtra> We /have to have 3/ people. We want to keep the NPO we need people to step up and keep it up 21:34 < TeamColtra> I am willing to help, but I am maxed out on projects 21:34 < JMcleod> Yeah you're doing enough Travis :) 21:34 < TeamColtra> If anyone wants to do it, I would be willing to give them assistance and do some of the things they ask of me to make their life easier 21:34 < JMcleod> But I was also thinking, maybe we should send an email out to all members and see if theres others interested 21:35 < TeamColtra> I don't like that 21:35 < TeamColtra> We need people we can really trust 21:35 < Nuitari> yeah trust is paramount here 21:35 < TeamColtra> if JMcleod and RLim both did it... 21:35 < TeamColtra> then it would ease the pressure on both of you 21:36 < JMcleod> I am not an organized person. 21:36 < TeamColtra> Jake has already agreed to be cheif person 21:36 < TeamColtra> chief* 21:36 < RLim> ok. I'll take the position. I'll do what I can. I don't think it will be weekly thing anyway. We can always get more members later right? 21:36 < TeamColtra> RLim: yes we can 21:36 < TeamColtra> <3 Thank you man 21:36 < RLim> is Patrick accepting the position? 21:36 < TeamColtra> He better be 21:37 < TeamColtra> ;) 21:37 < RLim> lol 21:37 < TeamColtra> CCitizen: ping 21:37 < RLim> who else is from Montreal 21:37 < RLim> ? 21:37 < JMcleod> I think im the only one still active close to Montreal other than Nuitari who's taking a break :P 21:38 < TeamColtra> Honestly we should probably move the official mailing address to Vancouver. We are already planning on setting up a pirate house and having us living together and stuff. Plus if Jake is going to manage 21:38 < RLim> lol you are setting up a Pirate commune? 21:38 < TeamColtra> basically :) 21:39 < JMcleod> Yeah PPCA seems strongest in western Canada, im all for moving stuff to make it easier for people 21:39 < TeamColtra> That can all be worked out by the NPO team 21:40 < RLim> yeah a quick digression. Was our VPN server moved? I notice one time IP was from BC but now it's Quebec again' 21:40 < Nuitari> dns 21:41 < CCitizen> yeah 21:41 < TeamColtra> I assume that's Yeah I accept? 21:41 < CCitizen> yep 21:41 < JMcleod> Ok then 21:41 < RLim> who else can we recruit? But that can wait I guess. 21:41 < JMcleod> The question is on to appoint Jacob Daynes, Ric Lim, and Patrick Fitzgerald officers of the NPO ... all in favor say aye all against say nay 21:41 < TeamColtra> aye 21:42 < JMcleod> aye 21:42 < RLim> aye 21:44 < JMcleod> quorum check? 21:44 < CCitizen> aye 21:44 < JMcleod> ok ayes have it 21:44 < Nuitari> who is going to handle the banking? 21:45 aye 21:45 < RLim> our bookkeeper? 21:46 < TeamColtra> Do we need to nominate Jake as chief agent, or can they work that out in the NPO on their own? 21:46 < TeamColtra> cheif officer or whatever 21:46 < TeamColtra> :P the dude whose head is most on the block ;) 21:46 < Nuitari> the npo is the chief agent 21:46 < Nuitari> the npo will have to decide who is the treasurer, secretary, vp and president 21:47 < JMcleod> (i must say im a bit uncomfortable without Jake here to agree to this, but we cant keep Nuitari here forever :)) 21:47 < Nuitari> got to go, daughter awake 21:47 < RLim> I assume someone from Vancouver? 21:47 < TeamColtra> JMcleod: he agreed last week 21:47 < JMcleod> oh thats good 21:47 < RLim> yeah he was here last week 21:48 < CCitizen> Jake was agreeing to it last meeting so 21:49 < JMcleod> OK - next point of order then? 21:49 < TeamColtra> I move the Pirate Party of Canada officially merges it's operations into the PPI IT Committee 21:49 < TeamColtra> This will not require us to change anything our IT Committee does, they still answer to us... they still work on whatever projects we want them to. They will simply hang out in the international IRC channel 21:49 < TeamColtra> and /can/ help out in bigger projects if they want (like liquid feedback and sucH) 21:50 < JMcleod> What does jhowell think of that? 21:50 < TeamColtra> This is somthing the US Pirate Party is looking to do to (if it seems silly that last week I suggested we just do it with the USPP, now I am saying PPI) 21:51 < RLim> TeamColtra what about our server and access info? 21:51 < TeamColtra> All remain with us 21:51 whats the difference 21:52 < JMcleod> I think he wants to let you choose to participate in PPI activities on your own if I get it 21:52 < TeamColtra> jhowell: basically a new meeting room, and we accept non-canadian's help on our projects (without giving them access to things, we would just work using revision management) 21:52 oh sure.. collaboration is fun 21:52 already talked to some folks i believe 21:52 < TeamColtra> jhowell: yeah I have been encouraging USPP members to join our channel 21:53 < TeamColtra> the new channel would be #intl-it on pirateirc.net 21:54 < TeamColtra> I know I can't proxy vote for him, but just saying: This is somthing that Shawn supports as well 21:55 < JMcleod> What language does PPI work in? 21:55 < TeamColtra> English 21:55 as long as we maintain the proper communication levels for who is working on what 21:55 and accept responsibility for those we give rights to 21:56 < TeamColtra> lol "oh yeah, sorry I forgot to mention... after we pass this we all have to learn Hebrew" 21:56 < TeamColtra> ;) 21:56 < JMcleod> well we shouldnt give any access to non-ppca members 21:56 < TeamColtra> JMcleod: or did you mean coding language? 21:56 and justify their participation.. we increase our team size 21:56 < JMcleod> no no, communication language 21:56 < JMcleod> coding is probably php :) 21:57 < TeamColtra> Coding is all languages 21:57 < JMcleod> for web apps 21:57 < TeamColtra> which is beautiful for us 21:57 < TeamColtra> If we want to use LiquidFeedback, we will need a lua developer 21:57 < TeamColtra> somethign we don't have 21:57 < JMcleod> whats lua (im pretty sure ive seen it before) 21:57 < TeamColtra> just another coding language 21:57 < JMcleod> well do we want to vote on that motion? 21:58 < TeamColtra> Honestly there shouldn't be that much need for giving people access anyway 21:58 < TeamColtra> we should do most of our work in repo's 21:58 < TeamColtra> like any professional development group would 21:58 < TeamColtra> I don't have any more debate, does anyone have an opposing statement on this motion? 21:59 collaboration just makes us stronger 21:59 < JMcleod> Ok we'll just put it to a vote 21:59 < JMcleod> The question is on that "the Pirate Party of Canada officially merges it's operations into the PPI IT Committee" All in favor say aye, all against say nay. 22:00 < RLim> should we elaborate on the motion that internal access are maintain 22:00 < RLim> ? 22:00 < TeamColtra> aye 22:00 our assets are our own.. no one can take them :) 22:00 aye 22:01 < RLim> aye 22:01 < JMcleod> aye 22:01 < TeamColtra> aye 22:01 < JMcleod> (I think, when delegating, we should have a lil faith in the ITComm not to give away our servers to others) 22:01 < CCitizen> aye 22:02 < JMcleod> Ok the ayes have it, ITComm merges its operations with the PPI ITCommittee 22:02 < RLim> ALmost counted two for Travis. :P 22:02 < JMcleod> lol 22:02 < RLim> not that it matters 22:03 < JMcleod> Yeah, ok any other business? 22:04 < JMcleod> If not, anyone have something to report on? 22:05 nope 22:05 < TeamColtra> oh sorry 22:05 < TeamColtra> :P for voting twice, wasn't paying attention 22:05 < TeamColtra> Oh 22:05 < TeamColtra> one last thing 22:06 < TeamColtra> We were discussing in the IT Committee about migrating our IRC server in with pirateirc.net 22:06 < TeamColtra> but I forget were we supposed to discuss that here 22:06 < TeamColtra> or did we discuss it here and now we are supposed to discuss it in IT? 22:07 < TeamColtra> Also the PC had come to a conclusion on the public tracker (which supports it as a public tracker) 22:07 < JMcleod> Well I would have concerns with doing that becuase of monthly meetings 22:07 < TeamColtra> JMcleod: we wouldn't have to change anything JMcleod 22:07 < TeamColtra> people would still connect to irc.pirateparty.ca 22:09 < JMcleod> And is the server on which IRC is installed shared with our other services, or would it liberate ressources? 22:09 < JMcleod> (ie: turning it into a mumble server) 22:10 < RLim> yeah PPI is also working on a nice video conference web program 22:10 < RLim> I think it's PPI 22:11 < TeamColtra> it's actually Pirates Without Borders 22:11 < TeamColtra> but that's not waht we are discussing 22:11 < TeamColtra> :) 22:11 < RLim> oh ok 22:11 < TeamColtra> The IRC server would just let other people from the other parties just type /join #Canada 22:11 < TeamColtra> and join our channel 22:12 < TeamColtra> and we can type /join #ppau and join Australias channel 22:12 < TeamColtra> instead of connecting to another server 22:12 < TeamColtra> They are incredibly knowledgable and have been a great asset within the US channels I am in 22:13 < JMcleod> Yeah, im just wondering if thats really exec board resort or ITboard 22:13 < JMcleod> if people wouldnt notice the difference, I dont see why not 22:13 < JMcleod> And if it helps us liberate ressources to set up a mumble server, it could be great 22:14 < RLim> yeah 22:14 < TeamColtra> JMcleod: we can always change our channel names if it becomes an issue 22:14 < TeamColtra> but they are currently free 22:14 < TeamColtra> JMcleod: actually I think we should also just use the PPI mumble server :P 22:14 < TeamColtra> Most of the other countries do, and it's organized very well 22:14 < JMcleod> I mean, the IT board is there to make IT decisions, else why would we need an IT board and to me this is an IT affair 22:14 < RLim> If they have one yeah 22:14 < TeamColtra> When I get home I will tell you guys the URL 22:15 < RLim> well we adopted the motion to merge with PPI so I guess yeah 22:15 < TeamColtra> JMcleod: the IT Committee sent this to the EB 22:15 < RLim> is there a specific motion right now or just discussing? 22:15 < TeamColtra> yeah I would like to motion it 22:15 < JMcleod> ok is there a copy of the exact motion that was sent to EB 22:16 < TeamColtra> I move to merge irc.pirateparty.ca with PirateIRC.net 22:17 < JMcleod> If its something IT board moved to EB, having their motion is kinda necessary 22:17 < TeamColtra> JMcleod: I dno't have it on this computer 22:17 < TeamColtra> We can make a recommendation to move it 22:17 < TeamColtra> and leave it back up to them 22:17 < TeamColtra> not a demand 22:17 < JMcleod> That would be better 22:17 < CCitizen> PPI has a mumble server? 22:17 < TeamColtra> I think they were just concerned to make a big decision without our support 22:17 < TeamColtra> CCitizen: yes tehy do 22:17 < TeamColtra> they* 22:18 < RLim> yeah I think IT would have some leeway on that. Especially after TRavis motion to merge with PPI IT 22:18 < JMcleod> Well, in my mind, it wont cost us money, so its up to them as we delegated all IT stuff to them. 22:19 < JMcleod> Anyhow, a motion was made 22:19 < JMcleod> The question is on to merge irc.pirateparty.ca with PirateIRC.net 22:21 < CCitizen> I think we agreed to do that at some point 22:22 < JMcleod> Yeah, well, I have a few amendments to make ot that 22:24 < RLim> go ahead 22:24 < JMcleod> So I move to prepend: "That the IT committee may make the decision to" and append "as long as we have control over the #Canada channel" 22:25 < JMcleod> So the new motion would read That the IT committee may make the decision to merge irc.pirateparty.ca with PirateIRC.net as long as we have control over the #Canada channel 22:27 < JMcleod> any discussion? 22:27 < TeamColtra> Sorry I got distracted 22:27 < JMcleod> seems everyone was 22:27 < TeamColtra> JMcleod: we will have controll over it 22:27 < TeamColtra> I actually already have the channel 22:27 < TeamColtra> err not have 22:27 < TeamColtra> am in 22:27 < TeamColtra> and the admins will give us access to it 22:28 < RLim> ok 22:28 < JMcleod> Well before moving I think the access should be guaranteed 22:28 < TeamColtra> JMcleod: it is... they already agreed to it 22:28 < RLim> I am good with how the motion is worded right nwo 22:28 < RLim> *now 22:29 < JMcleod> Im saying, words mean nothing, we get it first, then make the move. 22:29 < JMcleod> Not make the move then be held up by things such as that 22:32 < JMcleod> Alright well we'll just go ahead and vote since everything is dead again 22:32 < TeamColtra> Okay :) 22:32 < JMcleod> first: move to prepend: "That the IT committee may make the decision to" and append "as long as we have control over the #Canada channel"  - all who agree say aye, all against say nay 22:32 < JMcleod> aye 22:32 < TeamColtra> aye 22:34 < RLim> aye 22:34 < JMcleod> CCitizen - jhowell awake? 22:35 < JMcleod> Looks like quorum is lost, gonna give em another min to respond 22:36 < RLim> yeah 22:36 < TeamColtra> who voted? 22:36 < JMcleod> You, me, Ric 22:37 < TeamColtra> CCitizen jhowell JMcleod RLim scshunt  TravisMc_ xmux 22:37 < TeamColtra> whoops not you xmux  :P 22:37 < JMcleod> xmux cant vote 22:37 < CCitizen> hrm 22:37 < TeamColtra> CCitizen: say "aye" 22:37 < TeamColtra> ';) 22:37 < CCitizen> aye hehe 22:37 < TeamColtra> thanks :) 22:37 < RLim> sign your life away 22:37 < JMcleod> we will revote 22:37 < JMcleod> first: move to prepend: "That the IT committee may make the decision to" and append "as long as we have control over the #Canada channel"  - all who agree say aye, all against say nay 22:37 < JMcleod> aye 22:37 < RLim> aye 22:38 < TeamColtra> aye 22:38 < TeamColtra> CCitizen:  :P 22:38 < CCitizen> aye 22:38 < JMcleod> (and give jhowell a min to be here again) 22:39 < JMcleod> Alright, the ayes have it, the motion now reads: That the IT committee may make the decision to merge irc.pirateparty.ca with PirateIRC.net as long as we have control over the #Canada channel 22:40 < JMcleod> So now the question is on "That the IT committee may make the decision to merge irc.pirateparty.ca with PirateIRC.net as long as we have control over the #Canada channel" all in favor say aye, all against say nay 22:40 < TeamColtra> aye 22:40 < JMcleod> aye 22:40 < RLim> aye 22:41 gahs sorry 22:41 < JMcleod> (oh he lives - read question and vote) 22:41 give me moment 22:41 < CCitizen> aye? I thought we just voted on that 22:41 < JMcleod> (we voted on an amendment :) ) 22:41 aye 22:42 < JMcleod> alright the ayes have it 22:42 < JMcleod> If there is no other business, id like to end this here 22:43 < RLim> second :P 22:44 < JMcleod> alright then, meeting adjourned 22:46 < RLim> night all 22:46 < JMcleod> So quick recap, Ric, James & Patrick will deal with the NGO thing, which will most likely involve a transfer from Montreal to BC 22:46 < JMcleod> Then we agree that IT should work with PPI 22:47 < RLim> ok, yeah we probably should set up a meeting 22:47 < JMcleod> And that we leave it up to ITcomm to decide to move to PPI under the condition that they have full control over #Canada 22:47 < CCitizen> uhh you mean Jake 22:48 < JMcleod> yeah Jake not James :) 22:48 < RLim> and NPO 22:48 < RLim> :) 22:48 < JMcleod> its almost midnight, NPO not NGO 22:49 < JMcleod> and also we as a party not they as a committee 22:51 < RLim> aight 22:55 < Nuitari> back 22:56 < RLim> meeting adjourned. :) heading to bed