EB 2013-02-24 transcript



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18:30 <@JohannWeiss> I'm calling this meeting to order 18:30 <@JohannWeiss> I'm chairing, RLim is taking minutes 18:30 <@JohannWeiss> There's no agenda 18:30 <@JohannWeiss> Wilson mentioned he had some motions, so go ahead Wilson 18:30 < RLim> wait 18:31 < RLim> approval of minutes :P 18:31 <@JohannWeiss> .... 18:31 <@JohannWeiss> Right 18:31 < RLim> http://wiki.pirateparty.ca/index.php/EB_2013-02-17_minutes 18:31 < Wilson> looks right to me 18:31 <@JohannWeiss> Me too 18:32 <@JohannWeiss> 60 sec for disupute 18:32 <@JohannWeiss> dispute** 18:33 <@JohannWeiss> Minutes are approved 18:33 <@JohannWeiss> Now you can go Wilson 18:33 < Wilson> I motion that membership signups be offered on the website on a 'pay what you want' basis with $0, $5, $10, $15 and $20 as the selectable amounts. 18:34 <@JohannWeiss> I don't think we should offer free memberships. It would be too easy for someone to create fake memberships, which would translate into fake votes 18:35 <@JohannWeiss> I like the sliding scale, but the minimum should be either 5 or 10. 18:35 < RLim> agree 18:35 < Wilson> Are you willing to offer that as an amendment? 18:35 < RLim> second 18:35 < RLim> then we can amend it 18:35 <@JohannWeiss> Yeah 18:36 < Wilson> I motion that membership signups be offered on the website on a 'pay what you want' basis with $5, $10, $15 and $20 as the selectable amounts. 18:36 < Wilson> (amended text) 18:36 <@JohannWeiss> Any objections to the amendment? 18:36 < RLim> none 18:37 <@JohannWeiss> (I geuss I should just ask Wilson if he approves of the amendment) 18:37 < Wilson> I don't disapprove and your point about free membership is well taken 18:37 <@JohannWeiss> Great 18:38 <@JohannWeiss> Any other discussion on the motion or are we ready to vote (say something within 60 sec) 18:38 <@JohannWeiss> ? 18:39 <@JohannWeiss> We are now voting on the main motion: that membership signups be offered on the website on a 'pay what you want' basis with $5, $10, $15 and $20 as the selectable amounts.. 18:39 < Wilson> aye 18:39 < RLim> aye 18:39 <@JohannWeiss> aye 18:40 <@JohannWeiss> Motion passes, 3 in favour, 0 against 18:40 < Wilson> ok. I had 1 more 18:40 <@JohannWeiss> Go ahead 18:41 < Wilson> I motion that James Wilson be authorized to sign up members free of charge at local meetings in Calgary or New Brunswick occuring in March and April. 18:41 < Wilson> This should get by the problem of fake memberships 18:41 <@JohannWeiss> Yeah 18:41 <@JohannWeiss> It's mainly a problem for making online accounts 18:42 <@JohannWeiss> I've got no objections. Just wondering if you have some particular events in mind? 18:43 < Wilson> If I stay in Calgary I'm going to do a monthly event as I did in January. If not I'm going to try to organize in my NB riding 18:44 <@JohannWeiss> Cool. One last question, do you have physical forms to get the contact info we normally ask for on our signups? 18:45 < Wilson> Do such forms exist? 18:46 <@JohannWeiss> I don't think so, but they might. I've never seen one 18:46 < Wilson> I think I could handle collecting the needed info. 18:47 <@JohannWeiss> Yeah, you could easily make a 1 page thing to get the necessary info. 18:47 <@JohannWeiss> I just thought of a possible problem. 18:48 <@JohannWeiss> It counts as a donation to the party, which must be properly tracked 18:48 < Wilson> a $0 membership counts as a donation? 18:48 < RLim> well we could make it as volunteer time for the party 18:48 <@JohannWeiss> ... 18:49 < RLim> so it's not totally free 18:49 <@JohannWeiss> Right 18:49 <@JohannWeiss> Was thinking that some people might want to pay, but if your only taking free ones, then obviously there's no problem 18:50 <@JohannWeiss> and if they still want to donate, you could just suggest they go to the site at a later date and make a donation of whatever amount they wish 18:50 <@JohannWeiss> so yeah, no problem, I was overthinking it 18:51 <@JohannWeiss> Any other dicussion on it before we vote (60s) 18:51 < RLim> amend it to say 18:51 < RLim> James Wilson be authorized to sign up members free of charge in exchange for volunteer time or participation in party's events at local meetings in Calgary or New Brunswick occuring in March and April. 18:52 <@JohannWeiss> I don't think the volunteer thing is necessary if they are free memberships 18:52 <@JohannWeiss> It's not a donation because there's no funds 18:54 < RLim> yeah I withdraw the amendment. Don't want to make it complicated. 18:55 <@JohannWeiss> Cool 18:55 <@JohannWeiss> So ready now? 18:55 < RLim> yep 18:56 <@JohannWeiss> We are now voting on the main motion: I motion that James Wilson be authorized to sign up members free of charge at local meetings in Calgary or New Brunswick occurring in March and April. 18:56 <@JohannWeiss> aye 18:56 < Wilson> aye 18:56 <@adpaolucci> aye 18:56 < RLim> aye 18:56 <@JohannWeiss> Motion passes, 4 in favour, 0 against 18:57 <@JohannWeiss> Any more motions? 18:57 < RLim> just report if there's no more motion 18:58 <@JohannWeiss> Well one thing we need to make sure of at this meeting is that we are prepared for the EB election 18:58 < RLim> yeah and someone to monitor the server 24 hours a day that the website does not go down. :P 18:59 < RLim> or maybe we can move to a new site before then 18:59 <@adpaolucci> I got that covered 18:59 < RLim> just host the code somewhere else? It's just php code 18:59 <@adpaolucci> RLim wtf was I just saying in the IT room? 18:59 <@adpaolucci> I need to completely redo the sites code to move it 18:59 <@JohannWeiss> ? 19:00 <@JohannWeiss> But you think the site will stay up as is? 19:00 <@adpaolucci> the site has been too heavily modified with dependencies on a old version of php 19:00 <@adpaolucci> yes until we move it 19:01 <@JohannWeiss> We should all check to make sure the site is functioning periodically. 19:01 <@JohannWeiss> What the best way for us to contact IT in case it does go down? 19:01 <@adpaolucci> IT@pirateparty.ca 19:01 < RLim> adpaolucci: I mean if you decide to move to Wordpress or something else 19:01 <@adpaolucci> I am rebuilding the drupal site from scratch 19:02 < RLim> you have the voting code right? We should probably test that on the new server also 19:02 <@adpaolucci> we arent moving till after the EB vote 19:03 <@adpaolucci> so we can do that at a later time 19:03 <@JohannWeiss> Yeah 19:03 < RLim> ok 19:03 <@JohannWeiss> I will be checking and announcing the results because I'm not on the ballot 19:04 < RLim> ah adpaolucci is the phpmyadmin still up? 19:04 <@adpaolucci> yes 19:04 <@JohannWeiss> RLim, is that test vote we did still active? Can I try to grab those results? 19:04 < RLim> JohannWeiss: can you test and see if you can login 19:04 < RLim> ? 19:05 < RLim> It should still be there 19:05 <@JohannWeiss> I'll do so now 19:06 <@JohannWeiss> Cabn't login: #1045 Cannot log in to the MySQL server 19:07 < Wilson> k, I need to go. Night 19:07 < RLim> night Wilson 19:08 <@JohannWeiss> Any idea why that would be? 19:09 < RLim> adpaolucci: is the database working? 19:09 <@adpaolucci> what kind of stupid question is that? if not the site would be down 19:10 < Broken_Syntax> adpaolucci, I know you're tired man, but not all Pirates are admins ;) 19:10 < RLim> 19:06 <@JohannWeiss> Cabn't login: #1045 Cannot log in to the MySQL server 19:10 < RLim> was the password changed? 19:11 <@JohannWeiss> Yes 19:11 <@adpaolucci> yes 19:11 <@JohannWeiss> I've got the right one now 19:11 <@adpaolucci> Johann has it 19:11 < RLim> ok good 19:12 < RLim> thanks 19:12 < RLim> can you change the validation code? 19:14 <@JohannWeiss> my irc client just died on me 19:14 < RLim> adpaolucci: I know your plate is full but does someone want to take on updating the voting page 19:14 < RLim> the validation page needs updating also 19:14 < RLim> it is best if I stay away from it since my name is on the ballot 19:15 < RLim> it will be a select list votes 19:17 < RLim> https://www.pirateparty.ca/validate_approval 19:17 < RLim> https://www.pirateparty.ca/node/add 19:17 < RLim> then select list Vote 19:18 <@JohannWeiss> Looks like I managed to pull the data successfully 19:18 < RLim> just change the VID number (I think max is 11 characters). 19:18 < RLim> then update the shorname1 and candidate name and delete the rest 19:19 < RLim> *shortname1 19:20 < JohannWeiss> Gah 19:21 < JohannWeiss> Alright, I can pull the data and will post it to the IRC when it's time 19:21 < JohannWeiss> Then we can post in the forums, publish the pdf with the data, etc, etc 19:21 < JohannWeiss> I won't need to do anything to start the vote, correct? 19:21 < RLim> we also need someone to create the page. Or I can create the page now and adpaolucci can update the validate_approval code later 19:22 <@adpaolucci> I am up to my neck in php 19:22 <@adpaolucci> so you can do it 19:22 < RLim> k 19:24 < RLim> well if you guys don't mind me having access to the password since that's what I am avoiding 19:25 < RLim> JohannWeiss: you can also go in to https://www.pirateparty.ca/validate_approval 19:25 < RLim> then it will say token not much vote not registered. 19:25 < RLim> See if you can click on edit 19:25 < RLim> then change where it have the old password and replaced it with the new one 19:26 < JohannWeiss> Access denied 19:27 < JohannWeiss> for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES) 19:27 < JohannWeiss> ? 19:27 < RLim> fine I'll do it. Do you use gpg? 19:27 < JohannWeiss> Who's that question directed at? 19:27 < RLim> you or adpaolucci 19:27 < RLim> to sent me the password 19:31 < RLim> ok that's settled 19:31 < RLim> lol 19:32 < RLim> btw I've paid our 2 domains and iweb 19:32 < RLim> that's all I have to report 19:33 < RLim> is the candidate's list final? Or still waiting for them to confirm? 19:34 < JohannWeiss> Shawn hasn't given me a firm yes or no, so I just texted him again 19:34 < JohannWeiss> Other then that it's final 19:35 < JohannWeiss> I'll update the forum post when I get an aswer 19:35 < RLim> ok let me know if you hear back from him so that I can set up the voting page 19:35 < RLim> then just clicked publish and promote to front page when the time comes 19:35 < JohannWeiss> I'll email you then 19:35 < RLim> thanks 19:36 < JohannWeiss> Well we lost qourum with Wilson, so meeting adjourned 19:36 < JohannWeiss> Is there anything else we need to deal with? 19:37 < RLim> none that I can think of 19:38 < JohannWeiss> Well I'm gonna sign out then 19:38 < JohannWeiss> Wait 19:38 < JohannWeiss> we need to decide on a time to start the voting on wednesday (since it wasn't explicitily stated) 19:39 < JohannWeiss> And can you just reuse the PC election notification email to notify members? 19:39 < RLim> probably Wednesday prime time 19:39 < RLim> and sent out a notice on Tuesday 19:40 < JohannWeiss> alright 19:40 < JohannWeiss> well then I'm out 19:41 < RLim> k



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