FC 2011-11-03 Transcript

[20:47] <@Rintaran> Speak of the devil. [20:48] <@svulliez> comparison reference? [20:48] <@svulliez> MikkelPaulson: http://a.im/qvkRX2 [20:48] <@Rintaran> Maybe facial. We'll have to see. [20:48] <~MikkelPaulson> see comments in #canada [20:49] <@svulliez> derp [21:03] <@svulliez> http://a.im/qvkRX2 [21:04]  wellcmon [21:04]  up to 4people... [21:04]  and it doesn't let me click allow [21:04] <@svulliez> Shit, we could move to tinychat [21:05] <@svulliez> its equally easy to set up [21:06] <@Nuitari> or keep irc... [21:07] <@Nuitari> maybe there is something that has android [21:08] <@svulliez> let's hit it uo [21:08] <@svulliez> I command this meeting to start [21:08] <@MikeBleskie> TO SKYPE? [21:08] <@Nuitari> skype is ok [21:09] <~MikkelPaulson> preferably with everyone either using a directional mic and/or in a quiet environment [21:10] <@Rintaran> I'm in a silent room... My mic appears to have been stolen... I'm thinking the kid did it. [21:10] <~MikkelPaulson> I wouldn't say that was a successful test, given that there's no way I could have heard anyone speak [21:10] <~MikkelPaulson> or if anyone was speaking, I sure couldn't tell [21:11] <@svulliez> I had my mic muted and sound off [21:11] <@MikeBleskie> Same [21:12] <~MikkelPaulson> I live alone, no background noise, and I was using headphones [21:12] <@MikeBleskie> Strange [21:12] <@Nuitari> on aim or skype? [21:12] <@MikeBleskie> I'm logged on Skype, so is Mikkel [21:12] <@Rintaran> Ditto [21:13] <@Nuitari> add me, nuitari8 [21:13] <@Rintaran> Though I don't even know if my mic works on the netbook... [21:13] <~MikkelPaulson> group video calling on Skype only requires one participant to have a pro subscription [21:13] <~MikkelPaulson> which is $9/mo [21:14] <@MikeBleskie> They do? [21:15] <@Rintaran> Multiple audio-calls, no problem. But not video without a subscription. [21:16] <@Rintaran> Bleskie, did you change to a new skype account, you're still showing up as offline. [21:16] <~MikkelPaulson> multiparty video is up to 10 people [21:16] <@svulliez> now my skypes updating [21:16] <~MikkelPaulson> I see him [21:16] <~MikkelPaulson> m1blesk [21:17] <~MikkelPaulson> can't see you though Stephane [21:18] <@Rintaran> Are we getting this party started or just staring at our navels. [21:19] <@svulliez> irc or on skype? [21:19] <@Rintaran> does anyone have skype pro? [21:19] <~MikkelPaulson> I have the North American calling addon [21:20] <@Rintaran> That's cool, but does it give you multi-party video chat? [21:20] <~MikkelPaulson> not pro though [21:20] <~MikkelPaulson> *premium [21:20] <@Rintaran> 'Cause if no one has pro, there's no point in skype atm. [21:20] <~MikkelPaulson> can still do a group voice chat [21:21] <@MikeBleskie> I'll find a place to do it [21:21] <@Rintaran> Google+ [21:21] <~MikkelPaulson> why don't we just do this on IRC this month and then we'll have a full week to find an alternative [21:21] <@MikeBleskie> Sure [21:22] <@Rintaran> Sounds fine to me. Maybe I'll be able to locate my headset in that time. [21:22] <@Nuitari> whatever solution, if you want to see my face it has to be android compatible [21:23] <~MikkelPaulson> Skype for Android has video chat, I doubt if it supports multiparty chat though [21:23] <~MikkelPaulson> wrong button :P [21:23] <@Nuitari> MikkelPaulson: no idea [21:24] <@svulliez> Alright so. The agenda tonight: constitution vote? [21:24] <~MikkelPaulson> Note: people with Skype video-enabled mobiles are currently able to join group video calls via voice only. [21:25] <@svulliez> We need to send an e-mail to the members of the party, correct? [21:25] <@Nuitari> yes [21:25] <@Nuitari> someone has to write said email [21:26] <@MikeBleskie> Well, I haven't been following what's been going on [21:27] <~MikkelPaulson> I can write it, but I'll need scshunt to give me the details [21:28] <@Rintaran> Details? You mean a link to the bylaws? https://crm.pirateparty.ca/bylaws [21:30] <~MikkelPaulson> no, as in the election procedure and what will happen afterwards [21:30] <@Rintaran> Last two pages of the bylaws has some info on that I think. [21:33] <~MikkelPaulson> okay, I think I have the necessary details [21:33] <~MikkelPaulson> I'll put that together tonight [21:36] <@svulliez> So is that the 19th of December we'll have our election? [21:37] <@svulliez> This two channel stuff is confusing. [21:38] <~MikkelPaulson> yeah [21:38] <~MikkelPaulson> let's drag it back in here, as I think Sean has said his bit [21:38] <@Rintaran> Depends on when we have the vote on the constitution. I'd prefer to have the 19th of November for the Admin part of the election and December 19th for our political councl. [21:38] <@Rintaran> I just think it'd be better to have things switched over before the new year. [21:39] <~MikkelPaulson> I would say it'd be better not to have the voting process drowned out by Christmas [21:41] <@svulliez> Alright, well we need to pick a day so we can start getting people to consider running [21:42] <~MikkelPaulson> well that presupposes that the amendment will pass, which I don't think we should be doing [21:42] <~MikkelPaulson> just include in the email notice that should the amendment pass there will be an election [21:42] <~MikkelPaulson> when it does, we can have another notice ready to go [21:43] <@svulliez> Alright. Cool. Is this settled? [21:43] <@Rintaran> Sounds good to me. [21:43] <~MikkelPaulson> regardless, let's move along [21:44] <~MikkelPaulson> I'd rather have a snappier meeting structure that doesn't exhaust every subject but just ensures that everyone's on the same page, encouraging them to carry on discussing the finer points elsewhere [21:45] <~MikkelPaulson> Nuitari: any progress on the card printing? [21:45] <~MikkelPaulson> and have you had a chance to set up an email account for David yet? [21:45] <@svulliez> MikeBleskie: any progress on my business cards? [21:45] <@Nuitari> MikkelPaulson: someone needs to send me more info then a name for the account [21:46] <@Nuitari> I don't even know where to send the user pass, nor which email address he wants [21:46] <~MikkelPaulson> svulliez: you still don't have any? or are you getting new ones? [21:46] <@Nuitari> No progress on the cards, I think it's time we buy a printer that can do the full job and stop relying on preprinted cards [21:46] <~MikkelPaulson> got one in mind? [21:47] <@Rintaran> davidascroft@ for the address. He was CC'ed on the original e-mail to you, but I can dig it up again. [21:48] <@Nuitari> I think the Evolis Pebble will be fine [21:48] <~MikkelPaulson> price tag? [21:48] <@MikeBleskie> Sorry bout that [21:49] <@MikeBleskie> svulliez: They came in [21:49] <@svulliez> MikkelPaulson: never got any, mike said he was going to send some to me soon some while ago [21:49] <@Nuitari> MikkelPaulson: ~1400$ [21:49] <@MikeBleskie> But now you're in Winnie [21:49] <@Nuitari> depending where I can find a store willing to ship to Canada [21:49] <~MikkelPaulson> well I guess the good news is that you can get cards with your current location on them [21:49] <~MikkelPaulson> my cards will say Edmonton for years to come [21:49] <@MikeBleskie> I looked at them, they say Vancouver on them =\ [21:50] <@MikeBleskie> But I'll ship out what I have [21:50] <~MikkelPaulson> ah [21:50] <~MikkelPaulson> oh well [21:50] <@MikeBleskie> 3 of us now have cards with wrong cities [21:50] <~MikkelPaulson> I think we should add QRcodes to the back of the next generation [21:50] <~MikkelPaulson> and we will need more printed in the near future [21:51] <~MikkelPaulson> the quality of the ones we have is great, so I suggest ordering from the same company [21:51] <@Nuitari> I'd suggest waiting for the election [21:51] <@MikeBleskie> That would be up to Rintaran, then [21:51] <~MikkelPaulson> yeah, that's what I mean [21:52] <~MikkelPaulson> post-election we'll need a new order [21:52] <@Rintaran> What would be up to me exactly? [21:53] <@Rintaran> Ordering everyone else new cards? [21:53] <@MikeBleskie> New business cards [21:53] <@MikeBleskie> The place is on Laurier by OttawaU [21:53] <@Rintaran> I think I know the place. Should be able to handle it. [21:54] <@Rintaran> Apparently I missed a call today. Someone dialled my PPCA number and it went to my old number again... [21:56] <@Nuitari> just to make sure, what's your PPCA number? [21:56] <@Rintaran> *120 [21:56] <@svulliez> I have a new phone number also [21:57] <@Nuitari> Rintaran: no call today [21:57] <@Nuitari> svulliez: what is it and what is your ppca number? [21:57] <~MikkelPaulson> we will also need a new phone system recording [21:58] <~MikkelPaulson> I don't think we're going to be able to get Sagal any time in the near future [21:58] <@Rintaran> No? I'll have to dig out the message then. You did fix my new number in there now though eh? 613-400-8201 [21:58] <~MikkelPaulson> especially now that I'm 3500 km away [22:04] <~MikkelPaulson> okay, anything else on these subjects? [22:05] <@MikeBleskie> Nothing on those subjects [22:05] <@Rintaran> Nope. [22:05] <~MikkelPaulson> okay then [22:05] <~MikkelPaulson> other business? [22:06] <@MikeBleskie> I have nothing to add at this time, since I'm working on my own project [22:06] <@Rintaran> Well, to return to the colour item raised last time. I floated it at the Ottawa PPCA meeting this week. [22:07] <@Rintaran> It got some nods, so it isn't likely to be a huge hurdle to switch to the purple colouring. [22:08] <@Nuitari> why purple? [22:08] <@Rintaran> Need to avoid the colouring of the big parties, and I think it was mentioned going with similar colouring of the Swedish partty. [22:08] <@MikeBleskie> Piratpartiet of Sweden [22:09] <@MikeBleskie> It was the colour I originally supported [22:09] <@Nuitari> so we'd rebrand everything? [22:09] <@MikeBleskie> I said it would be a little premature at this time [22:09] <@MikeBleskie> maybe closer to the next federal election, sure [22:11] <@Rintaran> It was just something that I floated with them to guage the ground. [22:11] <@Rintaran> By now you've all had teh chance to view the minutes from teh Ottawa meeting, or elected not to. Anyone see anything there we should consider discussing? [22:13] <@svulliez> The purple pirates thing I think is relevant [22:13] <@svulliez> when we hold our elections we should also toss in a "what should our official color be?" thing with the choices of red, purple or black [22:13] <@svulliez> or a write in for whatever [22:14] <@MikeBleskie> Well, looking at the minutes [22:14] <~MikkelPaulson> I don't have anything specific [22:14] <~MikkelPaulson> though I'd like to discuss some of the proposed platform points [22:14] <@MikeBleskie> Sign language as a language addition is pushing it [22:15] <@Rintaran> I beleive so as well. It was something that was raised, so it was recorded. [22:15] <@MikeBleskie> But we'd have an advantage with Mikkel, if he isn't rusty >_> [22:15] <~MikkelPaulson> but let's keep collecting and hold one big series of meetings [22:15] <~MikkelPaulson> I'm rusty, but I bet my sign is better than any of the other party leaders [22:16] <@MikeBleskie> PPOntario. [22:17] <@MikeBleskie> I don't suppose there are people that want to lead the charge. [22:17] <@Rintaran> Not yet by the sounds of it, but the seed it out there. [22:17] <@MikeBleskie> I will admit [22:17] <@Rintaran> There were a few from outside Ottawa that suggested it elsewhere as well. [22:17] <@MikeBleskie> I will not be involved if there is a movement [22:18] <@MikeBleskie> And even though there is interest, I just cannot participate [22:18] <~MikkelPaulson> I don't think there's been any progress on PPQC, but I'll follow up in the near future [22:19] <@Rintaran> A municipal party? I hadn't heard of PPQC. [22:19] <~MikkelPaulson> Quebec provincial [22:19] <@Rintaran> So why QC? [22:19] <@svulliez> nice. we need more french ground troops [22:20] <@svulliez> in the... info....war... [22:20] <@Nuitari> well [22:21] <@Nuitari> the 2 leaders of the main party have popularity score in the low 10% range [22:21] <@Nuitari> with the voting intentions that come with it [22:21] <@Nuitari> and recently we just kicked out the main QC federal party for the NDP [22:22] <@svulliez> this is a discussion for another time, but I am fully down with quebec seperation [22:23] <@svulliez> breaking into an alliance of smaller countries based on bioregion and culture makes perfect sense to me [22:23] <~MikkelPaulson> yes it is [22:24] <~MikkelPaulson> Nuitari: I really don't have a handle on the political will in Quebec yet [22:24] <@Nuitari> People want change [22:24] <~MikkelPaulson> I won't be involved in any provincial operations, except by way of federal/provincial partnerships [22:27] <@svulliez> How are we going to handle the issue of the full platform? to be written by the political council? [22:27] <@svulliez> they will run and explain their vision for the pirate party? [22:28] <~MikkelPaulson> I think we should run a Slashcode-powered consultation [22:28] <~MikkelPaulson> for 1-2 months [22:28] <@Nuitari> Have you seen the one for the Occupy movement? [22:28] <@Nuitari> people can submit things [22:28] <~MikkelPaulson> then hold a Political Council meeting to discuss the results and other stuff we've come up with [22:28] <@Nuitari> and then there is a/b voting to order things [22:28] <@Rintaran> I thought it was going to be developed in large part based upon what people put as their platforms when running for the political council, to be merged, formed as a consensus and then voted on by the GA, with their input and the like. [22:28] <~MikkelPaulson> draft a proposal and send it to the General Assembly for a yes/no vote [22:32] <@Rintaran> I do think though that it will be up to the Political Council that gets elected to determine how they'll form the expanded platform. [22:32] <~MikkelPaulson> let's avoid getting too specific there then [22:33] <~MikkelPaulson> the one remaining question I have is this [22:33] <~MikkelPaulson> what can we do about C-11? [22:34] <@MikeBleskie> If we're in a position to fight? I'd /almost/ be inclined to take a support role alongside OpenMedia [22:36] <~MikkelPaulson> I'm inclined to agree [22:37] <~MikkelPaulson> going lone wolf hasn't worked well for us [22:39] <@Rintaran> So, take the lead from them, pass on their info, and occassionally spit out a poster, pamphlet, or press release of our own? [22:39] <@Rintaran> Given our funding level, that sounds like a great place to go. [22:43] <@Rintaran> Ok, well, given the extended silence, we're probably done for the night... [22:43] <~MikkelPaulson> sounds like a good way to descend into irrelevance too [22:43] <~MikkelPaulson> but at this point at least we'd be doing something… [22:43] <@Nuitari> who takes care of the email for the vote? [22:43] <~MikkelPaulson> I do [22:47] <@Nuitari> ok

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