EB 2012-09-02 transcript



NOTE: All Log times are in Canadian Central Time.

18:46 < JohannWeiss> Alright, I'll call the meeting of the EB to order. 18:46 < JohannWeiss> I'll chair 18:47 < JohannWeiss> Either chat about this scheduling thing in a separate channel or wait till later. 18:48 < JohannWeiss> RLim, do you have a link to last weeks minutes 18:48 < JohannWeiss> ? 18:48 <@shawnvulliez> Just talked to Jack, he's on his way 18:48 < RLim> I was away so have not looked at wiki for 2 weeks 18:49 < SeanHunt> no one has touched anything on the wiki 18:49 <@JMcleod> im here 18:49 < JohannWeiss> I was away as well 18:49 < SeanHunt> the wiki is nothing more than a document repository 18:49 < JohannWeiss> Alright, JMcloud, care to take over 18:49 < JohannWeiss> ? 18:49 < SeanHunt> oh, and a serious eater of tech resources :P 18:49 <@shawnvulliez> steve too 18:49 <@JMcleod> Well what were we on? 18:49 < JohannWeiss> We were just going to review the minutes from last week 18:49 < SeanHunt> RLim: btw I am making minutes from general meeting 18:49 <@JMcleod> ok post link then 18:50 < JohannWeiss> Rlim and myself weren't here, so neither of us have the minutes link 18:50 < RLim> SeanHunt thanks 18:50 <@JMcleod> I sent em to RLim. Last meeting was adjourned by lack of quorum 18:50 < RLim> JMcleod e-mailed me the minutes from last meeting. Which is two liner 18:50 < RLim> but the week before that? 18:50 < RLim> 20:47:18] <@JMcleod> Ayes: 2 Nays: 0 18:50 < RLim> [20:47:18] <@JMcleod> The following motion has passed: ajourn EB meeting due to lack of quorum 18:51 <@JMcleod> The week before that we had it on a piratepad, lost the link though, maybe Shawn still has it 18:51 < JohannWeiss> shawnvulliez, any luck? 18:52 <@JMcleod> http://piratepad.ca/AK2lGed4M1 18:52 <@JMcleod> There 18:52 <@JMcleod> That meeting, we gave a ton more power to IT director 18:53 -!- svulliez [~vulliez@50.98.ivi.zm] has joined #canada-meetings 18:53 < JohannWeiss> no objection to those minutes 18:54 -!- shawnvulliez [~vulliez@50.98.ivi.zm] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:54 < SeanHunt> someone text me if PC gets quorum 18:54 < SeanHunt> I think I'm about to fall alseep 18:54 < RLim> dictator? lol 18:54 <@JMcleod> yeah 18:54 < RLim> and why is there a need for that? 18:55 <@JMcleod> 0 doers, many thinkers 18:56 <@JMcleod> I have icecream in hand 18:56 <@JMcleod> anyhow 18:56 < RLim> and how would making him a dictator work? What can he do that he was not able to do before? 18:56 <@CCitizen> Also we might as well give them the authority to do whatever needs to be done 18:56 < RLim> I have way too many ice cream in the last 2 weeks. lol 18:56 <@JMcleod> lol 18:56 <@JMcleod> well he explained the probs he was having for over an hour 18:57 < RLim> ok let's move on. :) 18:57 <@JMcleod> IT still answers to EB & GM anyways 18:57 <@JMcleod> ok 18:58 <@JMcleod> minutes of past 2 weeks approved unanimously 18:58 <@JMcleod> I also approved moving to another host last week as it will wind up saving us 20-40$ per month once all is set up 18:58 < RLim> what is the name of the host? 18:59 -!- ox_pirate [~chatzilla@50.99.v.lh] has joined #canada-meetings 18:59 < Wilson> hey ox 18:59 < ox_pirate> Hello 19:00 <@JMcleod> it was a nice pdf report too lemme see if i can find 19:00 <@JMcleod> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19288099/PPCA%20Future%20State%20IT%20Model.pdf 19:00 < RLim> as long as we did our research on the host 19:01 < Wilson> If Shawn is still here that means the PC has quarum 19:01 < RLim> don't want it to go down during crucial times 19:01 <@JMcleod> Well its what IT does. I didnt actively research on it myself. I think jhowell & JakeDaynes did though 19:03 <@JMcleod> pdf has a mistake, host site is hertzner.de btw 19:03 <@JMcleod> damnit 19:03 <@JMcleod> http://www.hetzner.de/en/ 19:03 <@JMcleod> there 19:03 <@JMcleod> Anyways, thats all there is to report from me. 19:04 <@JMcleod> Anyone else have any business? 19:04 < Wilson> I do 19:04 <@JMcleod> Hey, does PC have quorum now that ox is here? 19:04 < SeanHunt> yes 19:05 < Wilson> I would like access to the wiki in order to get the riding association guide up, update PC transcripts, and general housekeeping 19:05 <@JMcleod> JakeDaynes: you here? 19:05 < SeanHunt> The riding association guide shouldn't go up without discussion first 19:05 < Wilson> Which needs the PC 19:05 < SeanHunt> or at least, shouldn't be billed as done 19:05 < SeanHunt> that's EB business 19:06 < RLim> what about the platform website? domain? 19:06 < SeanHunt> although we should probably all look at it 19:06 -!- SeanHunt [~scshunt@129.97.xsz.lg] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:06 <@JMcleod> Platform is PC, buying domain once its settled can be approved by JohannWeiss or I 19:07 <@JMcleod> svulliez JakeDaynes here? 19:07 < JohannWeiss> Wilson: I'm not sure we even need to approve you getting access to the wiki, you're on the PC, so you can have access 19:08 <@JMcleod> Yeah, we need JakeDaynes to wake up and let us know what PC have access too 19:08 < RLim> yeah but have we decided on domain? do we have a date of when we plan to do stuff 19:08 < RLim> ? 19:08 < RLim> I think shawnvulliez said he is on the island and won't be here tonight 19:09 < Wilson> He was here earlier...and he seemed set on splitting up responsibilities... 19:10 < RLim> do you know the details? 19:10 < RLim> maybe we should just hold meeting over e-mail. :P It's hard to get everyone in the room at the same time 19:11 <@JMcleod> Well for EB we seem to get quorum (its easy when someone phones you in case you forget) 19:12 <@JMcleod> But some people seem to be afk :( 19:12 I'm here, apologies, was taking a phone call 19:12 <@JMcleod> So anyways, I think Wilson should already have wiki access since hes on PC now. 19:13 < RLim> oh btw, our french priate tweeter looks neglected. https://twitter.com/partipirateca 19:13 < RLim> *pirate 19:13 < RLim> so should we contact Jhowell for contact request? 19:13 < RLim> I mean access request 19:14 < RLim> rightnow there seems to be lots of waiting 19:14 <@JMcleod> svulliez - are you with JakeDaynes tonight? 19:14 jake is on the island 19:15 i texted him 19:15 he's never attended a meeting from the island iirc 19:15 < ox_pirate> Anyone can use the account TClement if they want wiki access. Pm me for the pass. 19:16 < ox_pirate> for the lulz I mean 19:16 <@JMcleod> Well perhaps Shawn could do some talking with the new PC 19:16 Where's sid? 19:17 < Wilson> Haven't seen sid at all 19:18 <@JMcleod> And also, PC should pick a deputy leader right? 19:19 I think so too 19:19 ox_pirate: do you know if sid is coming? 19:20 < ox_pirate> I just texted her 19:20 <@JMcleod> Text her im online and cant wait to say hi, maybe itll entice her to come on faster :D 19:20 < JohannWeiss> Do any EB members have more business to bring forward? 19:21 <@JMcleod> Seems not 19:22 <@JMcleod> We are basically waiting to see if PC has anything brought forward that requires EB 19:22 <@JMcleod> (since thats the point of holding meetings together) 19:23 Hey CCitizen 19:23 Are you here? 19:23 <@CCitizen> Yeah 19:23 Is it fair to say you attend most meetings? 19:23 <@CCitizen> I try to whenever possible 19:24 I've gotten the impression that you attend many of them 19:24 It's really great because there is sometimes continuity problems between councils 19:24 <@JMcleod> svulliez: http://wiki.pirateparty.ca/index.php/Executive_Board 19:25 <@JMcleod> Highlight Patrick Fitzgerald 19:25 <@CCitizen> With all the new members of the PC we should probably look at potentially new meeting time 19:25 <@JMcleod> Id say he attends most of em :P 19:27 That's also a good idea 19:28 I was just considering that when trying to figure out how we should delegate PC activity 19:29 <@CCitizen> We could use that thing that we did last time 19:29 <@JMcleod> True, if you remember, travis had set it up 19:29 <@CCitizen> I thought Ric set it up 19:32 <@JMcleod> silent in here 19:32 <@JMcleod> :( 19:32 <@CCitizen> Yeah 19:32 <@JMcleod> woulda thought new people in EB would be talkative :) 19:32 PC doesn't have quorum yet 19:32 <@JMcleod> whats PC quorum now 19:32 5 19:32 < Wilson> 5 19:32 <@JMcleod> outta how many members 19:33 < Wilson> 8 19:33 < RLim> who is new at EB? 19:33 I'm going to text seanhunt 19:33 we can actually get started if he comes back 19:33 <@JMcleod> Wilson JakeDaynes svulliez ox_pirate CCitizen SeanHunt if he comes back (missing sid and who else?) 19:34 Jesse 19:34 <@JMcleod> oh yeah 19:34 < RLim> you mean PC 19:34 <@JMcleod> havent seen him in a while 19:34 < RLim> CCitizen you remember what program Travis used? 19:34 < RLim> Doodle? 19:37 <@CCitizen> I think that was it 19:38 I just phoned seanhunt 19:39 he made a weird noise and hung up 19:39 which I guess means he's coming 19:43 <@CCitizen> Anyways yeah we should do that and get everyones input and decide on some new meeting schedules 19:43 <@JMcleod> Maybe he turned into a zombie and is actually going out to hunt for brains 19:43 < ox_pirate> Sid hasn't responded yet so idk 19:46 < Wilson> Well, should we bring the PC meeting to order so it may be ajourned or wait a bit longer? 19:47 < RLim> who else is new to PC 19:47 < RLim> jesse 19:47 < RLim> I guess we don't have his contact 19:49 < RLim> and I thought it would be better with the quorum now. But extra people does not help if most don't show up also. 19:49 < RLim> hopefully it's just because this is the first time 19:50 < RLim> seriously though if this continue we should probably just hold it via e-mail or forum 19:50 <@JMcleod> Ill send him a congrats email 19:50 <@JMcleod> so he knows 19:51 <@JMcleod> and hopefully, now that its September, maybe people will live more. 19:52 <@JMcleod> There :) 19:52 <@JMcleod> Congratulations on the PC election. 19:52 <@JMcleod> 19:52 <@JMcleod> Just a reminder, we meet weekly on Sundays at 7:30 pm. We will be looking at changing the time to accommodate everyone, but for now it is how it is. 19:52 <@JMcleod> hehe 19:53 < RLim> I was going to ask what the plan and timeline is for the platform crowdsourcing but I guess that have to wait until there's a quorum 19:53 <@JMcleod> well its 9 pm, should we keep waiting or just adjourn the meetings? 19:54 < RLim> ok I am creating a "doodle" 19:55 JohannWeiss, Wilson, CCitizen, ox_pirate 19:55 oh wait, johann isn't on the PC anymore haha 19:56 We should act as if we have quorum and just implement the ideas formally later 19:56 < RLim> this is partly what is so frustrating also. The waiting. It's a big waste of time IMHO 19:56 I'm happy to have you all on board 19:56 <@CCitizen> Yeah 19:56 Wilson, CCitizen, ox_pirate - are you still around? 19:56 < Wilson> yup yup 19:57 <@CCitizen> Lets see what times are best for people and set a new schedule might be better for everyone 19:57 Are you all familiar with the Remix Your Government project? 19:57 < ox_pirate> Yes, but brb. And my schedule is all over the place so it doesn't really matter 19:57 < Wilson> Shawn: crowdsourcing the PPCA platform? Just heard about it, no details 19:59 Details have been discussed, but the project has been delayed a few times for a few reasons 19:59 Nothing has been particularly set in stone 20:00 Essentially, we're going to be setting up a website with multiple ways of submitting ideas for government projects/infastructure/incentives/etc 20:01 and we're going to get a crew of 25 canadian pirates to build the platform based on those suggestions 20:01 < Wilson> Do we have a crew of 25 pirates to do that? 20:02 < RLim> I would volunteer to help set up the website and forum if Jake needs help 20:02 < RLim> but PC need to decide on domain to purchase first 20:03 <@JMcleod> id like to be one of the 25 canadian pirates. 20:04 Wilson: We have over 25 occasional contributors, presumably the process of crowdsourcing the platform would also bring more people out 20:05 You likely will be, but we'll work that out much later 20:06 Alright, Wilson, CCitizen, ox_pirate 20:07 < Wilson> aye? 20:07 do you have any opposition to buying remixgov.ca? 20:07 or do you think there may be a better domain? 20:07 remixyourgoverment.ca ? remixyourgov.ca? remix-government.ca? 20:08 I think I've got the barebones of a Public Relations plan for it 20:08 < Wilson> remixgov.ca seems the most straightforward (also shortest). 20:09 <@CCitizen> hmm not sure seems like it'd work but yeah go for shorter when possible 20:09 yeah, and we can also have the #remixgov hashtag across social media platforms 20:11 < RLim> SeanHunt suggested that we have the longer one registered also 20:11 < RLim> I think he said remixyourgovernment.ca 20:11 I think that's a good plan 20:12 <@CCitizen> Should get both if possible 20:13 < Wilson> I agree. (just out of curiousity: cost of getting 2?) 20:14 < RLim> should not be much 20:14 <@JMcleod> should be 25$ at most 20:15 < RLim> http://www.domainsatcost.ca/DomainSearch.aspx?q=remixgov.ca&t=CA,CO,COM,NET,ORG,BIZ,INFO,US,NAME,XXX&s= 20:15 Does EB have quorum? 20:15 <@JMcleod> Yeah EB has quorum 20:15 < RLim> I think so if Jhowell still here 20:16 < RLim> I mean JohannWeiss 20:16 < RLim> sorry :P 20:17 The EB should motion to purchase those two domains 20:18 <@CCitizen> Sounds reasonable to me 20:19 <@JMcleod> https://secure.netfirms.com/register/registration.bml?origin=45&domain=remixgov.ca&domainoffercode=cad_995domain01o&page=1&from=lookup&flowid=20&promos=cad_995domain01o 20:19 <@JMcleod> we dont need to motion for that, just figure from where you buy 20:19 <@JMcleod> 25$ = approved 20:22 < RLim> so who would buy them? IT? 20:23 <@JMcleod> Same that usually buys our domains 20:23 <@JMcleod> I think its fund 20:23 <@JMcleod> but not sure 20:26 -!- Wilson [webchat@174.35.mlg.tyq] has left #canada-meetings [] 20:26 < RLim> http://www.doodle.com/9weqzp9rezxicwfi 20:26 < RLim> Can someone e-mail the other PC members who are not here? 20:28 -!- ox_pirate [~chatzilla@50.99.v.lh] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:28 < RLim> you can change the timezone 20:28 < RLim> let me know if you want me to edit anything 20:28 < RLim> time was based on eastern time 20:30 <@CCitizen> LOL oops 20:31 < RLim> CCitizen I take that as you don't want to have anything to do with the meeting. lol 20:31 < RLim> jk 20:32 <@JMcleod> The motion currently on the floor is: EB meeting adjourn because PC seems to be over 20:32 -!- mode/#canada-meetings [+vvv JohannWeiss RLim svulliez] by JMcleod 20:32 * JMcleod CCitizen, JMcleod , JohannWeiss , RLim , svulliez 20:32 <@JMcleod> The motion currently on the floor is: EB meeting adjourn because PC seems to be over 20:32 <@JMcleod> You are voting on the main motion 20:32 <@JMcleod> The voting starts now. All in agreement with the motion say 'Aye'. All who disagree say 'Nay' 20:32 <@JMcleod> aye 20:33 <+svulliez> aye 20:33 <@CCitizen> aye 20:33 <+svulliez> lets get out more notice and be better prepared for next week i guess 20:33 <+RLim> aye 20:33 <@JMcleod> Ayes: 3 Nays: 0 20:33 <@JMcleod> The following motion has passed: EB meeting adjourn because PC seems to be over



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