PC 2013-03-31 transcript

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  We have 5. Meeting called to order at 5:35  Yes, but she hit the Jesus juice a bit hard and is not feeling great Should we start on the IRC issue, it should be pretty quick.  Sure.  Current by-law is: 2013-03-17 Weekly meetings use an asynchronous system, the Loomio platform. An IRC meeting can still be called by email to the political council and 1 weeks notice.  Sorry I'm late. At the parents' for Easter.  Are we still doing mumble? I propose creating a 2 tier IRC Meeting model in which any PC member has the capacity to call a meeting on 2 different tiers. 1 being 18-48 hours notice(henceforth referred to as the emergency meeting) and to be called as needed in a emergency basis. A meeting with notice of 1 week may be called as needed. Also, if 6 PC members object, a meeting may be cancelled.  Will there be any limitations to what can be done at an emergency meeting? Did my message come out wrong or?  I want to propose the following change: "Weekly meetings use an asynchronous system, the Loomio platform. A regular IRC meeting can still be called by email to the political council and 1 weeks notice. An emergency meeting may be called with 24 hours notice but only the issue in the notice may be discussed"  Point of Information (lol though not to the topic): I am not opposed to mumble if anyone else isn't or if anyone wants we can talk on mumble on the side while doing the meeting?  I don't think we technically need a way to cancel a meeting because if not enough people show up it doesn't happen anyways  I assumed you wouldn't be here so I didn't loo into Mumble :/  So is there any debate on the idea of allowing short-term notice for meetings/specific wording changes?  None here Nope.  None  ok. I motion that our meeting rules be ammended to the following: Weekly meetings use an asynchronous system, the Loomio platform. A regular IRC meeting can still be called by email to the political council and 1 weeks notice. An emergency meeting may be called with 24 hours notice but only the issue in the notice may be discussed. <Wilson> Please vote yea or nay <Travis_McCrea> Yeah <Wilson> yea yay <McGrath-remote> Yay <Wilson> Motion passed 4 yay / 0 nay <Wilson> Ok, on to Labrador <Wilson> Travis, what information are you looking for specifically on finances? <Travis_McCrea> I need to make sure that I can move there and not max out my party contribution limit or worse violate it. <Wilson> So basically "Are travel fees to the riding included in the contribution limit?" <Travis_McCrea> And my cost of living there, etc <Wilson> (I'm asking because I have the time this week to make a bunch of phone calls to EC) <Travis_McCrea> Also again, I need to at least know a pirate preferably 2 or 3 who live in the place I am going because I need an agent <Wilson> That is going to be a problem. As I mentioned in the report, I checked the list and couldn't find any Pirates. <Travis_McCrea> I didn't consider that part before <Wilson> *in the riding <Travis_McCrea> but it's obviously a needed step, it would suck to go there and blow through 3K and not be able to even legally run. Also if I did run again I would need a local who could help me get my 150 signatures <Travis_McCrea> I have money, and I have money to spend on the party. However, it's better to spend useful money and not blow it… just so we can have a candidate. <Wilson> Having a candidate in this election is not useful? <Travis_McCrea> It would be useful <Travis_McCrea> but only if I was actually a candidate <Travis_McCrea> me just going there to go there and not having a decent plan to actually get on the ballot isn't useful <Travis_McCrea> I take minor blame in this because I jumped in all ready without fully thinking through everything, which isn't something a "leader" should do. If we can get some people on the ground and do this right, I am all for it. <Wilson> I used a word find function to look for members in the membership list (first three digits of postal code, and labrardor) are there any other terms I could use to search the list? <Travis_McCrea> are you searching the entire <Wilson> I have the entire list (accurate as of two weeks ago) What I'm concerned about is our presence in Labrador. <Wilson> Or lack there of... <Wilson> Doesn't surprise me really. Rural riding, no major population centres. Not prime Pirate habitat <RLim> one thing to keep in mind. If I may interject <Wilson> go ahead <RLim> base on experience running in mostly rural area, you could spent a lot on gas <RLim> you could concentrate on the urban area but would that be enough? <RLim> Maybe it is. But travelling far to mostly empty land is not very efficient <RLim> what is their largest urban centre and what is their population? <Wilson> I sent the PC a report, just a sec I'll find it <Travis_McCrea> <3 I get 40MPG <RLim> From my conversation with Election Canada, all expenses related to campaigning is considered election expenses <Travis_McCrea> Can you drive to Labrador? <RLim> so as soon as it is called <Wilson> Happy Valley-Goose Bay (7,552) <RLim> Travis_McCrea: probably but you have to go through a ferry <RLim> that's even tougher than my riding if that's the most populated area <RLim> but one point EC mentioned is once election is called <RLim> so if you move there before and spent the money then does that mean that's outside the campaigning period since it has not been called yet? <RLim> but how do we know in advance. They have 6 months to call and we can't stay there for 6 months <RLim> by we I mean Travis lol <Wilson> You know though...If we swept that city its basically our win. Peter won with 4,256 last time <RLim> can we realistically swept them? <RLim> do they have history of pirates <RLim> ? <Travis_McCrea> they have a history of pirates, but not our kind <RLim> If you show you know their issues and more in touch than the politicians that might work <RLim> I know they try to probe me on local issues even though it's provincial matters <Wilson> They don't have a history of Conservatives either. I'm just highlighting a one city strategy is viable <RLim> yes Travis_McCrea you can relate their trailblazing quality to ours :) <Wilson> Getting people to vote for us is the second part <RLim> yeah reach everyone of them <RLim> hold town hall meeting <RLim> if they question you about not being from there <RLim> tell them that's why you are there <RLim> you want to see pirates from Labrador <Travis_McCrea> Honestly my plan would be to talk about pirate issues and then slam seal clubbing (and the lack of government transparency that goes along with it) and grab a 10% vote from the people who want to vote for a politician with the courage to stand up against it <RLim> 10% <RLim> ? You need to develop your platform further than just pirate. <RLim> good luck in order to connect with the people. <Travis_McCrea> No other politician (who is trying to get elected) will speak out against the Canadian Fish and Wildlife Ministry and it's lack of transparency. I come in and speak out against it and hope to get a good % <RLim> if you approach it as non-confrontational <RLim> but the government could play it up and say look Travis wants to take away your livelihood <Travis_McCrea> Well I am not going to call them baby seal murdering rednecks <Travis_McCrea> ;) <Wilson> If they go after Travis, we have already won (perhaps not the election but meh) <RLim> lol <Travis_McCrea> RLim of course they will, the people will say that too… but there is at least a small number of people who are against the HSH who would like to see a politician speak out against it <RLim> Yeah I am just saying you have to show them you are more than just criticizing them. <RLim> Are you totally against hunting? <Travis_McCrea> I would show them the way that they can make money using the Internet (like I do) <RLim> or just the gruesome treatment <RLim> lol <RLim> well do what you want <Wilson> Btw, did you look over the report I sent you, Travis. That has a few policy areas that might work. <Travis_McCrea> and how if they invest in programming education and stuff they could have a more sustainable future rather than living around the fishing industry which has crashed within the past decade <Travis_McCrea> Wilson I did <Travis_McCrea> RLim both It is true, if Travis becomes a major community presence, we could possibly win a seat in the next offical elections. <RLim> I am not trying to appease them but personally I have no problem with hunting but I have problem with clubbing seals <Wilson> On the timing issue: If it is not called quickly (as some rumour it might) it is unlikely to be called during the summer. <Travis_McCrea> Unfortuantely do to my beliefs on fishing, it would be insanely difficult for me to ever actually get a majority vote. I could become a voice in the community and win something proportional <RLim> How much is the flight? How much is lodging? <RLim> Just be humble in making your point. You don't want to make enemy in a place you are not familiar with <Travis_McCrea> Of course. <Wilson> Yah Travis "Don't raise up more demons than you can put down" <RLim> Travis_McCrea: you don't believe in fishing <RLim> ? <RLim> Not that it matters <Travis_McCrea> I don't want to make an enemy in general and that's not what I am saying, I am just saying that with my beliefs (which my beliefs on commercial fishing and the seal hunt which are second tier to my beliefs of pirate stuff) it would be a difficult place for me to be a viable long term candidate <RLim> Can I see your report Wilson? <Wilson> I'll send it to the EB as well. Actually I'll do that now. <Wilson> Also, Happy Valley-Goosebay may be one of the few areas there not reliant on fishing. <Travis_McCrea> RLim I donate over 1K a year to Sea Shepherd Conservation Society and am on the list as their backup communications officer for their ships <RLim> ok I respect that Travis_McCrea <Travis_McCrea> For anyone interested Andrew, Ric and Myself are in mumble.piratenpartei-nrw.de in "International" > "Pirate Party of Canada" <Wilson> k, Ric. I sent you the report <Travis_McCrea> Wilson do you have a job at a brick and mortar place? <Travis_McCrea> lol as some people call it a "real job" <Wilson> Currently unemployed. I'm waiting to hear back from a 'real job' in NB. Be moving back regardless if I get it or not. <Travis_McCrea> Well I was just wondering how feasible it would be for you to join me? If I got us an apartment or something for the month? That would be something we can consider… but I think the meeting is running a bit slow now. Do we want to table this? <Wilson> If a) I get the job, it is primarily active in the summer so b) if the by-election is called mid-fall I could c) join you in Labrador. <Wilson> Yah I'll call it. Motion to adjourn. <Travis_McCrea> Agree <Wilson> Aye <McGrath-remote> Aye <Wilson> We are adjourned at...6:33 </PRE>
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