FC 2011-05-20 transcript

[21:01] <+rintaran> Alright then. I hereby call this meeting to order. The agenda for the evening can be viewed here: https://www.pirateparty.ca/forum/index.php?topic=1152.0 [21:01] <+Nuitari> and I'm here [21:01] <+rintaran> Are there any additions to be made to agenda? [21:01] <+svulliez> Hello [21:01] <+Nuitari> yes [21:01] <~MikkelPaulson> I'd like to discuss reallocating workload within the council as well [21:02] <+Nuitari> Provincial and municipal parties [21:02] <+rintaran> Alright. I'll alot 20-minutes to either just before the "To-do" list. Is that acceptable? [21:02] <~MikkelPaulson> sure [21:04] <+rintaran> Alright then. We're going to try to keep to schedule. If we use the max alloted time, we'll be out at 11:40pm EDT. I suspect we'll manage earlier. [21:04] <~MikkelPaulson> hopefully [21:04] <+Nuitari> did we republish the PRs from PPDE today ? [21:04] <~MikkelPaulson> on Twitter, preparing our own response [21:05] <+rintaran> We have not. They've just been finished. [21:05] <+rintaran> First on the Agenda is Mikkel's report on his PPCA activity this past week, and his status on the to-do list items assigned to him. [21:05] <~MikkelPaulson> well, as you know, I'm getting ready to move to Montreal [21:06] <~MikkelPaulson> fired off an email to directors@ [21:06] <~MikkelPaulson> so I'll be occupied with that for a while [21:06] <~MikkelPaulson> I'll try to be as active as possible [21:06] <~MikkelPaulson> but realistically, between moving and settling into a new job, you may not see a whole lot of me [21:07] <~MikkelPaulson> as requested, I've contacted some of our candidates [21:07] <~MikkelPaulson> so far response has been noncommittal [21:07] <~MikkelPaulson> I don't think we'll get much [21:07] <~MikkelPaulson> but I'll keep trying [21:07] <~MikkelPaulson> hopefully get some people from my own campaign on board, anyway [21:08] <~MikkelPaulson> my other assigned task is to prepare a report on the election [21:08] <~MikkelPaulson> I'm still waiting on some candidates' responses [21:09] <~MikkelPaulson> but I made a preliminary report yesterday [21:09] <~MikkelPaulson> that's it for me [21:09] <+rintaran> Thank-you Mikkel. [21:09] <+rintaran> Next is Bleskie. How did you do this week? [21:09] <+rintaran> You have 5-minutes for your report. [21:10] <+rintaran> Mike? [21:10] <~MikkelPaulson> MikeBleskie: [21:10] <+MikeBleskie> Oh, sorry ther [21:11] <+MikeBleskie> First thing is first, I would like to confirm that everything is a go to assist Russia in their RuLeaks initiative. I have confidence in how things are going, and Samir Allioui, my usual contact within PPI, will be meeting with the PPI CAO from Russia in Brussels soon, so this will be brought up. [21:11] <+MikeBleskie> Samir will also take the liberty of lining up the allocation of our free Ostraca accounts, as he is currently working with a plethora of crucial free speech and internet liberty projects. He can also personally arrange free ( ipv6 ) DNS Anycast. [21:12] <+MikeBleskie> So, Nuitari, at any time, feel free to contact Artem about anything you need [21:12] <+MikeBleskie> Today, as we all learned, the Pirate Party of Germany had their servers taken by Federal Police in the past day, due to activities of Anonymous being linked to their Piratenpad, specifically dealing with a French oil interest. Aside from a response release, I plan on contacting the German Embassy for a more detailed explanation, if I am lucky enough to get one. [21:13] <+MikeBleskie> I'm sure we'll all be watching the Bremen results with greater interest due to this development, and that leads me to my next point, about consultations for BCPP [21:13] <+rintaran> BCPP? [21:14] <+MikeBleskie> British Columbia Pirate Party, which was discussed in detail late last night [21:14] <+MikeBleskie> We'll talk more about it later [21:15] <+rintaran> It's on the agenda. :) Did you manage your write-up for the VPN as assigned? [21:15] <+MikeBleskie> Regarding the BCPP, I will be arranging for advisors from the Czech Republic to give advice on the process. This was a reccomendation made to me over the German Pirates, since their system is very "german-oriented", whereas the Czechs' system is more applicable to our needs, and have pulled higher results [21:15] <~MikkelPaulson> (our to-do list from last week: http://pr.piratepad.ca/94 ) [21:15] <+MikeBleskie> The writeup is coming in the next few days. Unfortunately, it has taken longer than hoped. [21:15] <+MikeBleskie> Should be done by Monday. [21:16] <+MikeBleskie> I believe that concludes my report. [21:16] <+rintaran> Excellent. Sounds like things are very busy internationally. [21:16] <+rintaran> I believe I'm next. [21:17] <+rintaran> I finally competedy the newsletter calling for volunteers and advertising the PR meeting. This was sent to Vulliez earlier today. [21:17] <+rintaran> Provided there aren't many alterations required, it'll get posted up swiftly, with a French version coming shortly. [21:18] <+rintaran> All of the new job descriptions, except for those involving the new Elections Committee and the Media Committee, both of which are invite only have been posted on both the forum and the Wiki. [21:18] <+rintaran> Additionally, those job descriptions have also been posted on the newly completed PR Committee blog-site. [21:19] <+rintaran> I've already had several people volunteer for the new Development Committee positions regarding the development of Pirate Linux. [21:20] <+rintaran> One potential volunteer is not actually a PPCA member, Yehoshua, but I believe we should allow him to work on the project regardless. Someone willing to do work for the party is far more important that someone willing to just pay cash and do nothing, in my opinion. [21:20] <+MikeBleskie> Agreed [21:20] <+rintaran> And that concludes my report. [21:20] <+Nuitari> agreed, let him continue work on it [21:20] <+Nuitari> we can sell CDs / usb keys of it online or something [21:20] <+Nuitari> in addition to the download [21:21] <+svulliez> Agreed. [21:21] <+svulliez> I believe it's my turn? [21:21] <+rintaran> I believe you're next Shawn. [21:22] <+svulliez> I've updated the boards and member groups to fit the new PR outline. [21:24] <+svulliez> I've talked to Jake briefly, but we haven't got anything together on the website yet. I do have some sketches and logos. [21:25] <+svulliez> I've talked to a number of people about the new positions, and received some interest. I am preparing for the PR crew information session on the 23rd. [21:26] <+svulliez> That's enough I suppose. I've got a post election report in the works, but I want it to be poignant. [21:26] <+svulliez> I pass the baton to Nuitari [21:27] <+Nuitari> Basically we'll probably be shutting down the carat server and open a much faster server on iWeb as they come with a massive amount of transfer (up to 20tb) [21:27] <+Nuitari> we'll use it to provide VPS to various parties and as a backup mirror for our stuff [21:27] <+Nuitari> also to host piratepad.ca [21:28] <+Nuitari> this includes PPRU (and if they want), PPDE [21:28] <+Nuitari> I think we should make an official offer to PPI [21:28] <~MikkelPaulson> sounds like PPDE isn't going to need it [21:28] <+Nuitari> it will also be hosting the VPN service [21:29] <+Nuitari> yeah PPDE had backups ready, wish we could afford that kind of level [21:29] <~MikkelPaulson> we can still afford to implement some redundancy [21:30] <~MikkelPaulson> even if it just means running a backup service on a personal server or something [21:31] <+rintaran> Is that your report? I don't think there was anything else on your to-do list. [21:31] <+Nuitari> yeah that is what it will be about [21:31] <+Nuitari> yeah that's it [21:31] <+Nuitari> need to figure out the $ side to it [21:31] <+rintaran> Alright. Next we have up to 20 minutes to discuss any issues arising from the reports. [21:32] <+rintaran> Did anyone see something they wish to discuss that won't be handled later in the agenda? [21:32] <~MikkelPaulson> do we have PPDE on the agenda? [21:33] <+rintaran> It is not. [21:33] <~MikkelPaulson> okay [21:33] <~MikkelPaulson> let's talk communications for a bit then [21:33] <+rintaran> We have both a "statement" and a "press release" prepared for PPDE. [21:33] <~MikkelPaulson> who would use an XMPP server if we set one up? [21:33] <+rintaran> Translation for non-tech-heads? [21:34] <~MikkelPaulson> decentralized IM protocol [21:34] <+svulliez> I think we should be trying to shift our communication away from IM style interaction [21:34] <+Nuitari> Basically the same protocol behind google talk and facebook chat [21:34] <~MikkelPaulson> you can also communicate between servers, so we'd have accounts like mikkel@pirateparty.ca but could still talk to someone @gmail.com or whatever [21:35] <+rintaran> Ah. Well, I suppose I could use one. But if I want to speak with someone directly about PPCA stuff, I log in here. [21:35] <~MikkelPaulson> you -> pirateparty.ca -> gmail.com -> recipient [21:35] <+MikeBleskie> Seems unnessesary [21:35] <~MikkelPaulson> XMPP would be more secure [21:35] <+rintaran> Perhaps, but not the moment you got gmail involved. [21:35] <~MikkelPaulson> no [21:35] <~MikkelPaulson> just an example [21:36] <~MikkelPaulson> you can do the same with any other XMPP server, of course [21:36] <+Nuitari> if you're looking for secure, use OTR and PGP [21:36] <~MikkelPaulson> I have OTR set up [21:36] <+rintaran> More acronyms that have no common meaning... [21:37] <+MikeBleskie> I doubt I would use any of this [21:37] <~MikkelPaulson> http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ [21:38] <+MikeBleskie> Though my Pidgin does have XMPP, I only use Pidgin for my IRC anyways [21:38] <+rintaran> Yeah, so far I don't see any need for it. [21:38] <+Nuitari> MikeBleskie: pidgin has plugins for OTR which allows encryption [21:39] <~MikkelPaulson> Adium comes with it built-in [21:40] <~MikkelPaulson> OTR works over any IM protocol, even Facebook Chat [21:40] <~MikkelPaulson> so long as the other contact is using an OTR-compatible client as well [21:40] <+svulliez> I think we should probably try to focus on drawing in volunteers [21:41] <+svulliez> Setting that up is silly if there are only 5 or 6 people using it [21:41] <~MikkelPaulson> it's a matter of 20 minutes to set up [21:41] <~MikkelPaulson> so it's a non-issue, so long as it'll be used at all [21:42] <+rintaran> Well, I pretty much won't use it unless I have to. Perhaps once we have a few EDAs it'll make more sense for internal communications. [21:42] <+MikeBleskie> Regardless, it's a PITA to keep it running [21:43] <~MikkelPaulson> rintaran: true [21:43] <~MikkelPaulson> MikeBleskie: false [21:43] <+svulliez> There is probably a better way to set up effective communication between us, I'd be willing to give it a shot I suppose. [21:43] <~MikkelPaulson> afaik it's just install and forget about it [21:43] <~MikkelPaulson> but not exactly a ringing endorsement, so let's just leave the matter for now [21:43] <+rintaran> Is there a compatible connection via iPhone, Android and Blackberry? [21:44] <~MikkelPaulson> yes [21:44] <+svulliez> But really, that 20 minutes could be spent more productively. There are countless things that are more important right now [21:44] <~MikkelPaulson> most multi-protocol messengers support XMPP [21:44] <+rintaran> Then something to put a pin in for now. We can come back to it later. Say, September after a summer of recruiting? [21:45] <~MikkelPaulson> as Gray says, we'll need more extensive communication infrastructure in the future [21:45] <~MikkelPaulson> so we'll revisit it later on [21:45] <+rintaran> I'll earmark it for the september meeting then. 5-minutes left in business arising from the reports. [21:46] <~MikkelPaulson> all of the other points I'd like to respond to are already on the agenda [21:46] <~MikkelPaulson> so I'm good with moving on [21:46] <+rintaran> Is there anythign to discuss regarding PPDE? We currently have both a statement and a press release prepared. [21:46] <~MikkelPaulson> ah yeah [21:46] <+MikeBleskie> Read it, no issues [21:46] <+svulliez> I'd like to send the press release you wrote, rintaran [21:46] <+rintaran> Both should get posted to the Party's front-page though. [21:46] <+svulliez> I'd also like to get a press release outline tutorial in the forums in the next week [21:46] <~MikkelPaulson> just smash them into one [21:47] <~MikkelPaulson> maybe put that on the wiki instead [21:47] <~MikkelPaulson> and link it from the forum [21:47] <+rintaran> I could create a press template in the wiki if you wish. [21:47] <+svulliez> That'd be rad. [21:47] <~MikkelPaulson> oh [21:47] <+rintaran> I'll put it on my to-do list. [21:47] <~MikkelPaulson> there is actually one other thing [21:48] <~MikkelPaulson> PPDE's servers were apparently confiscated because Anon posted a ssh private key on piratepad.de [21:48] <~MikkelPaulson> we should look into placing some restrictions on .ca [21:48] <+rintaran> Our pad isn't public is it? [21:49] <~MikkelPaulson> pr. is a passworded team pad [21:49] <~MikkelPaulson> but piratepad.ca is open [21:49] <+rintaran> Ah. Then that would be a good idea. [21:49] <+Nuitari> even team pads aren't hard to create [21:49] <+Nuitari> no security on that thing [21:50] <~MikkelPaulson> can we restrict creation of anonymous pads? [21:50] <+rintaran> Does piratepad.ca have to be public? Is there a good reason to keep it so? [21:50] <~MikkelPaulson> we could just limit everything to teams [21:50] <~MikkelPaulson> in the past, there hasn't been a good reason to make it otherwise [21:50] * +rintaran notes that the allotted time is up. Finishing thoughts on this? [21:51] <+Nuitari> need to look at better security for it [21:51] <+MikeBleskie> No, I think we can make a desision on pad security next week [21:51] <~MikkelPaulson> let's do that [21:51] <+rintaran> I can put it on the agenda for next week then. [21:51] <~MikkelPaulson> Nuitari: mind putting looking into that on your to-do list? [21:52] <+Nuitari> it's already on iot [21:52] <+rintaran> Seemed like the logical thought. :) [21:53] <~MikkelPaulson> okay [21:53] <~MikkelPaulson> let's move on [21:53] <+rintaran> next on the agenda is a brainstorm for Web site Redevelopment. [21:53] <+rintaran> Some notes and the pad are located here: http://pr.piratepad.ca/96 [21:54] <+rintaran> The primary complaint I believe was in the site's complexity and the difficulty in finding information about the platform and the candidates. [21:55] <~MikkelPaulson> I've also had quite a few people complement us on the site [21:55] <~MikkelPaulson> at least visually [21:55] <~MikkelPaulson> it's a disorganized mess, but I don't think it needs a visual overhaul [21:55] <+rintaran> True, it does have presence. Though we should look at updating the main graphic somehow. [21:56] <~MikkelPaulson> http://mikkel.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/04 /mikkel-high-level-large.jpg [21:56] <~MikkelPaulson> done. [21:56] <+MikeBleskie> Bam! [21:56] <+rintaran> I thought we wanted to attract people to the party, not send them running to gouge out their eyes. :P [21:57] <~MikkelPaulson> well that's a different sort of evangelism innit? people will be asking why they gouged their eyes for the rest of their lives [21:57] <+rintaran> In all seriousness, that's not too bad an idea. But it would be better to show you, or members of the party, involved in pirate action. [21:57] <~MikkelPaulson> I do want peoplee [21:57] <~MikkelPaulson> preferably not me [21:58] <~MikkelPaulson> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash1 /164729_759444960266_121513054_43283876_4482022_n.jpg [21:58] <+svulliez> I think by encouraging the EDAs and more local action during the next 4 years [21:58] <+svulliez> we'll get the images we need [21:58] <~MikkelPaulson> actually some of Shawn's pics would be best [21:59] <+rintaran> I believe Henderson had some good ones as well. [21:59] <~MikkelPaulson> something more engaged would be nice, anyway [21:59] <~MikkelPaulson> could even have them on rotation [22:00] <+rintaran> Different pic every time the page is loaded? [22:00] <+rintaran> Or rotating while the page is loaded? [22:00] <~MikkelPaulson> yes [22:00] <~MikkelPaulson> different pic [22:00] <~MikkelPaulson> well either one I guess [22:00] <+svulliez> I think we should leave it for now [22:00] <~MikkelPaulson> but rotating images is getting awfully cliché [22:01] <+svulliez> I mean, the pirate action photos [22:01] <+rintaran> You know it's cliche when I'm using it on my personal site... [22:01] <+svulliez> they're underwhelming unless there is a lot of people [22:01] <~MikkelPaulson> more concrete than what we have right now though [22:01] <+rintaran> Alright. What else needs to be done with the site. Bleskie, Bakhos, I'd love to hear your thoughts. [22:01] <~MikkelPaulson> shows we actually have faces and do things [22:02] <~MikkelPaulson> which isn't a message that's being communicated by our current site [22:02] <+rintaran> Realistically, we need a fresh blog post every 2nd day. [22:02] <+MikeBleskie> Realistically [22:02] <~MikkelPaulson> let's aim for once a week [22:02] <~MikkelPaulson> realistically [22:02] <+svulliez> There are a lot of us [22:03] <+svulliez> if we had people like Steve, and travis, and others submitting blog posts to us [22:03] <+rintaran> Once a week each would do well. Less and it ends up being too slow. [22:03] <~MikkelPaulson> Sean wants to do some as well [22:03] <+rintaran> We could easily end up getting it going. [22:03] <+svulliez> once a week is good, but every 2 or 3 is more appropriate [22:03] <+rintaran> Additionally, as reports start to come in from the new PR committees, we can use that to form posts. [22:04] <~MikkelPaulson> indeed [22:04] <+svulliez> And even posts of PR materials [22:05] <+svulliez> I have some ideas on that,I'll save it until it's time [22:05] <+rintaran> Ok, so we've hit a few key points. Are there aspects to the site that we shoudl consider eliminating? [22:07] <~MikkelPaulson> I think we can consolidate chat and forum [22:08] <~MikkelPaulson> and spin CaPT off to its own site, or blow the dust off and relaunch it [22:08] <+svulliez> I think we should relaunch CaPT on it's own site [22:08] <+rintaran> "Balanced Copyright" isn't really being used. Nor is the "In the Media", "Graphics", or "Local Meetings" pages. [22:09] <~MikkelPaulson> indeed [22:09] <~MikkelPaulson> though I think "in the media" should stay [22:09] <+svulliez> I'd like to see the site boiled down to just very basic things, the focus of the site should be representing our policies [22:09] <+rintaran> Perhaps the link should go directly to the Wiki though? Having the placeholder seems silly. [22:10] <+svulliez> meta discussion belongs in the wiki / forums [22:10] <~MikkelPaulson> no, it's a bad idea to have a navigation link leave the navigation tree [22:10] <~MikkelPaulson> an embedded wiki page would be okay [22:11] <+rintaran> I'm cool with embedding. [22:11] <~MikkelPaulson> but you should always be able to get back by navigating to another page rather than hitting the back button [22:11] * +rintaran says the 20 minutes is up. Final thoughts for now, we can revisit next week? [22:12] <+Nuitari> we could embed bitcoin mining too [22:12] <+svulliez> I'd like the main site to be for the indoctrination of new people. users can interact via forums/wikis/blogs/social media [22:12] <~MikkelPaulson> 4 tabs: party, issues, join and contribute, community [22:13] <+rintaran> And a searchable box for "Find your local candidate" [22:13] <+MikeBleskie> ^ [22:13] <~MikkelPaulson> yeah [22:14] <+svulliez> I like the reduction of tabs, but I feel like there is a more powerful word than "issues" [22:14] <+svulliez> we'll hammer it out later [22:14] <+svulliez> What's next? [22:14] <+rintaran> Next we have the Lawful Access Law [22:15] <+rintaran> We're going to need to come up with a response, and it'd be better to do before it's passed. [22:15] <+rintaran> I think it should go beyond a mere press release as well. [22:15] <+Nuitari> isn't ostra.ca the response? [22:16] <+rintaran> A part of it definitely. [22:16] <+rintaran> I'm thinking we should consider planning some protests surrounding it. [22:16] <~MikkelPaulson> there's one organized in Calgary next week [22:16] <~MikkelPaulson> but, as I think we've discussed previously, I think we're better off with no rally than an underattended rally [22:17] <~MikkelPaulson> this time around, let's coordinate with others rather than trying to go it alone [22:17] <~MikkelPaulson> *next month [22:17] <+svulliez> We should also prepare something explaining exactly what this lawful access legislation means to the consumer [22:18] <~MikkelPaulson> I think an educational video might be a good way to get that message out [22:18] <+svulliez> I agree [22:18] <~MikkelPaulson> something like this [22:18] <~MikkelPaulson> http://www.cleanternet.org/ [22:19] <+MikeBleskie> I also like http://www.lifesnotreadonly.net/ [22:20] <+svulliez> I like them both. Lifeisnotreadonly might be easier to emulate for now [22:21] <+rintaran> I like it. [22:21] <+rintaran> Who do we have that's any good with this type of videography? [22:22] * ~MikkelPaulson raises svulliez's hand [22:22] <+svulliez> I could do a cleanternet type thing, sure [22:22] <+svulliez> but not in the next week [22:22] <~MikkelPaulson> doesn't need to be in the next week [22:22] <+rintaran> How long do you think? [22:22] <~MikkelPaulson> I think this would be best dropped after the bill is tabled [22:22] <+rintaran> And how could I help with it? [22:23] <~MikkelPaulson> once we know the specifics and it's on the media's radar again [22:23] <+Nuitari> maybe gregb can help us with video too [22:24] <+rintaran> Do you think they'll be tabling the Crime Omnibus with the budget, or wait until the fall? [22:24] <+svulliez> rintaran: If you wrote a script for an animation, I could have it done In a 2 weeks from then [22:24] <+rintaran> If the later, we have lots of time. [22:25] <~MikkelPaulson> they claimed they'd pass it "within 100 days" [22:25] <+rintaran> Two weeks from the script. I can manage that. Do we know what the wording of this area will be? I'll need a link to that. [22:26] <~MikkelPaulson> well I believe the plan was to re-introduce the bills as-is [22:27] <+rintaran> So find C-50,51, and 52 and read them over? [22:27] <~MikkelPaulson> yeah [22:27] <+rintaran> Will do. [22:27] <~MikkelPaulson> but we should wait until we have the first reading copy before we finalize the script [22:27] <+rintaran> True, but there probably won't be many changes. [22:28] <~MikkelPaulson> indeed [22:28] <~MikkelPaulson> so it's okay to write it and do some storyboards and stuff [22:28] <+rintaran> I'm gonna give myself a deadline of next FC meeting for the script draft. Vulliez will likely want to make some modifications, and it'll give him the chance to start storyboarding after next week's meeting. [22:28] <~MikkelPaulson> but better if we wait on recording narration until we can double-check that we're not saying anything patently false [22:29] <+rintaran> I'm good with that assessment. Everythign sound kosher to you Shawn? [22:30] <+svulliez> it does indeed [22:31] <+rintaran> Excellent. And we just hit the 20 minute mark. We're keeping to schedule tonight. :) [22:31] <+rintaran> Next we have 10 minutes to brainstorm what collateral and templates we're going to want to get to work on. [22:32] <+MikeBleskie> Well [22:32] <+MikeBleskie> Aside from pamphlets and posters [22:32] <+rintaran> What kinds of pamphlets and posters? [22:32] <+MikeBleskie> Threefold and twofold, I suppose [22:32] <+MikeBleskie> Twofold for general party info [22:33] <+MikeBleskie> threefold ones to cover issues [22:33] <+MikeBleskie> Wait [22:33] <+MikeBleskie> Twofold isn't really what I'm thinking [22:34] <+MikeBleskie> just a simple four page, from to back sort of sheet [22:34] <+svulliez> I'd really like to run a campaign, if not now, but later [22:34] <+svulliez> using propaganda imagery [22:34] <+MikeBleskie> I dislike that idea [22:35] <+svulliez> as a public information campaign about a the public relations industry [22:35] <+MikeBleskie> It paints us at a low level [22:35] <+svulliez> Let a guy finish, Mike. [22:35] <+MikeBleskie> Fine =P [22:36] <+svulliez> the functional element of the idea is talking about media control, TV bias, etc, in an easy to read way while tying the ideas to classical propoganda [22:36] <+svulliez> propaganda [22:37] <+rintaran> I like it. Could be a part of a CRTC reform campaign. [22:37] <+rintaran> Would be pretty effective. [22:37] <+svulliez> There are a lot of "converted" people who are already aware of things like media bias that would react positively to that [22:37] <~MikkelPaulson> what's the status on the false and misleading thing? [22:38] <+rintaran> The CRTC retracted it [22:38] <+svulliez> Hm? [22:38] <~MikkelPaulson> ah okay [22:38] <+svulliez> Yeah, after the public outcry [22:38] <~MikkelPaulson> that would've been a good response, though [22:38] <~MikkelPaulson> I can never keep track of which bad decisions the CRTC has caved on [22:39] <+rintaran> Alright. [22:40] <+rintaran> Plus we want some posters along all the same lines I assume? [22:40] <+svulliez> I think so yeah [22:41] <+svulliez> We could do some "Pirate Party wants YOU" recruiting posters [22:41] <+rintaran> Good idea. [22:41] <+rintaran> I think we're at the 10 minute mark. [22:41] <+rintaran> Should give our new Promotions team some stuff to work on.

[22:42] <+rintaran> Next we need to get to work on the end of May newsletter. [22:43] <~MikkelPaulson> *cough* June [22:43] <+rintaran> Or beginning of June, w/e. [22:43] <+rintaran> Either way, we need to get one together and out. [22:43] <+rintaran> We haven't had one in ages and the peeps are getting restless. [22:43] <~MikkelPaulson> yeah [22:44] <+rintaran> We definitely need an article on the election. I think that would best come from a candidate. [22:45] <~MikkelPaulson> a non-leader candidate [22:45] <~MikkelPaulson> my perspective is too big-picture still [22:45] <+svulliez> Sounds appropriate for the newsletter [22:45] <+rintaran> Alright. So that leaves Mike, Stephane, or trying to hunt down another candidate to write. [22:46] <~MikkelPaulson> guess it depends what sort of tone you want [22:46] <+MikeBleskie> I'll see if I have time [22:46] <~MikkelPaulson> if I were to write a retrospective it'd inevitably be about the party not the campaign [22:47] <+Nuitari> not much for me to write about [22:47] <~MikkelPaulson> road trup [22:47] <~MikkelPaulson> *trip [22:47] <~MikkelPaulson> has anyone heard from Jeremy? [22:47] <+rintaran> So basically, we want one of the other candidates to write it then? Mikkel, who seemed up to continue with the party? [22:48] <+Nuitari> MikkelPaulson: I think someone posted a recap of his campaign early after the election date [22:48] <~MikkelPaulson> I think Travis is our best bet so far [22:49] <+svulliez> We should also call for volunteers once again, try to find people to appoint [22:49] <+rintaran> Alright. Why don't we contact him for his perspective. If he's not willing to do the write-up, I'll hammer something out. [22:50] <+rintaran> I already have a recruitment article written up. So that'll be a good addition to the newsletter. [22:50] <+rintaran> What else should we get? [22:50] <+rintaran> Something about the VPN maybe? [22:51] <~MikkelPaulson> only if our infrastructure is ready for the influx of users [22:51] <+Nuitari> it is [22:51] <~MikkelPaulson> http://pr.piratepad.ca/101 [22:51] <+rintaran> Would you be able to write that article Stephane? I think you're best qualified. [22:52] <+Nuitari> on the VPN? [22:52] <+rintaran> Don't need a fresh to-do list Mikkel. The old one is being recycled. Lots of work already being written on there that this version misses. [22:52] <~MikkelPaulson> ah okay [22:52] <~MikkelPaulson> haven't been following the other [22:53] <+rintaran> Yes, on the VPN. [22:53] <+rintaran> We're looking for what, 250 words? [22:54] <+Nuitari> ok [22:54] <+rintaran> Excellent. [22:55] <+rintaran> Vulliez, do you want to say something about your new committees perhaps? [22:55] <~MikkelPaulson> svulliez: [22:57] <+rintaran> Anyhow, we have Election article, VPN, volunteer article, donation request. If we can get something on the new PR committees from Vulliez and something on International Affairs from Bleskie, I think we'll be well rounded. [22:58] <+Nuitari> we have another 100$ of adwords for when we launch the vpn [22:58] <+rintaran> What do you think Bleskie? Anything internationally that should go in the June newsletter? [22:58] <~MikkelPaulson> good to know [22:58] <+MikeBleskie> Well [22:58] <+MikeBleskie> We have to include Mikkel's message about Germany [22:58] <~MikkelPaulson> indeed [22:58] <+MikeBleskie> And I may seek some people who speak European languages [22:59] <+rintaran> Sounds done to me. [22:59] <+MikeBleskie> as point people for the various PPI parties [22:59] <+rintaran> I'll put that in with my volunteer ad. Any particular languages? [22:59] <+MikeBleskie> Any european language [22:59] <+rintaran> Alrighty. [22:59] <~MikkelPaulson> well I can almost help you with NO/SE/DK [23:00] <+MikeBleskie> but an emphasis on German, swedish, french, Dutch, Czech [23:00] <+Nuitari> brb [23:00] <~MikkelPaulson> and FR [23:00] <+rintaran> And that's the 20 minutes allotted for that. Any final thoughts? [23:00] * +rintaran will ask Vulliez about the PR column later [23:01] <~MikkelPaulson> k [23:02] <+rintaran> Well, next we were to come up with next week's agenda, but I'll push that to just before the to-do list. [23:02] <+rintaran> Federal Council re-allocation is next on the agenda. Mikkel? [23:03] <~MikkelPaulson> well, we've discussed slicing up the PR responsibilities a bit in the past [23:03] <~MikkelPaulson> last meeting I think [23:03] <+MikeBleskie> And I agree [23:03] <~MikkelPaulson> as do I [23:03] <~MikkelPaulson> but I wanted to take another look at the tasks we have going on in the Council [23:03] <+MikeBleskie> Formal positions need to be appointed for projects [23:03] <~MikkelPaulson> maybe we can reallocate this a bit more elegantly [23:04] <~MikkelPaulson> http://pr.piratepad.ca/99 [23:05] <~MikkelPaulson> so I'd be down for an all-out cabinet shuffle if it would help [23:05] <+rintaran> We're not a cabinet though. We're the executive branch. the PPCA doesn't have a shadow-cabinet. :P [23:06] <~MikkelPaulson> indeed [23:06] <+rintaran> I was kinda hoping some candidates would stay on so we could have a shadow cabinet. :( [23:07] <~MikkelPaulson> yeah [23:08] <+rintaran> Any chance you could forward me the contact information for our former candidates, and those that applied but didn't get past EC? I can try to work on them a bit for that. It may be more up their alley than previous suggestions. [23:09] <~MikkelPaulson> what info I have, sure :-\ [23:09] <+rintaran> Thanks. [23:10] <~MikkelPaulson> uh, MikeBleskie? [23:10] <+MikeBleskie> You said piles [23:10] <+MikeBleskie> I'm making piles [23:10] <+MikeBleskie> <_< [23:11] <~MikkelPaulson> I was referring to the stuff at the top [23:11] <+MikeBleskie> Bah [23:11] <~MikkelPaulson> and anything else that I'm missing there [23:12] <+rintaran> Maybe we should also list the active committees as piles? [23:12] <~MikkelPaulson> the current structure has 3 for svulliez and 2 for each of the others [23:12] <+rintaran> And has what for you? [23:12] <+MikeBleskie> Technically there's a /lot/ more on Vulliez's plate [23:12] <~MikkelPaulson> you [23:12] <+MikeBleskie> That list does no justice [23:12] <~MikkelPaulson> indeed [23:12] <~MikkelPaulson> so let's break it down some more [23:13] <~MikkelPaulson> though "conduct interviews" ends up on my plate quite a bit [23:13] <+rintaran> Party Leader... You're the only one in the "Political" branch officially. [23:14] <~MikkelPaulson> we're not a microcosm of the government :P [23:14] <+rintaran> Parties have the same division. [23:14] <+rintaran> And it was one of the recommendations... [23:15] <~MikkelPaulson> true [23:15] * +rintaran hates to say there's only 5 minutes left in this. Any objections to a 10-minute extension on topic? [23:15] <~MikkelPaulson> no [23:15] <~MikkelPaulson> I don't think it's really necessary to be so formal for a meeting of 5 [23:16] <~MikkelPaulson> (no objection) [23:16] <+rintaran> If we weren't driving it by time like we have been, we'd still be on the first or second discussion topic at this point... Some formality helps. [23:16] <~MikkelPaulson> perhaps [23:16] <+rintaran> Reference, almost every previous meeting. :( [23:17] <~MikkelPaulson> heh [23:17] <+Nuitari> back [23:17] <+MikeBleskie> Extend [23:18] <+MikeBleskie> Honestly, what I think is needed is just a stronger relegation of tasks, and we're moving on that [23:18] <+MikeBleskie> Our roles are already fairly strong [23:19] <~MikkelPaulson> yes, but it seems like every meeting at least half of the stuff on our collective to-do list is PR [23:19] <+MikeBleskie> and serve a good purpose, so mixing around all of the tasks to a hodgepodge may create probems, IMO [23:19] <~MikkelPaulson> actually [23:19] <~MikkelPaulson> you know what [23:19] <~MikkelPaulson> I'm thinking we could split the PR job in two pretty cleanly [23:19] <~MikkelPaulson> one is fast, the other is thorough [23:19] <+MikeBleskie> Howso [23:20] <~MikkelPaulson> fast: current events, press releases, media interviews [23:20] <~MikkelPaulson> social media [23:20] <~MikkelPaulson> thorough: research, advertising, strategy [23:20] <~MikkelPaulson> blogging [23:20] <+svulliez> We're all in public relations, just change my title and stop making me the head of it [23:21] <+rintaran> :P [23:21] <~MikkelPaulson> that's sorta what we're discussing right now [23:21] <+svulliez> I see that. I am supporting it [23:21] <~MikkelPaulson> right [23:21] <~MikkelPaulson> okay [23:22] <+MikeBleskie> Shawn gets thorough and we all split fast? [23:22] <+MikeBleskie> Seeing fast tasks are easy to split [23:22] <~MikkelPaulson> not exactly [23:22] <+MikeBleskie> easier [23:23] <+MikeBleskie> (than the other way round) [23:23] <~MikkelPaulson> heh [23:24] <+rintaran> Should the agent also head up Fundraising efforts as the buck literally has to go to him? [23:25] <~MikkelPaulson> how does that look? [23:25] <~MikkelPaulson> sounds reasonable, but I'm not sure that Stephane has the time for that [23:26] <+MikeBleskie> Inded [23:26] <+Nuitari> would be nice to have someone else on it [23:26] <+MikeBleskie> *Indeed [23:26] <+rintaran> Well, we'll hopefully have a fundraising committee. He just needs to keep an eye on it. [23:26] <+rintaran> The positions are Fundraising Chair, and two Fundraising Assistants. Should be alright there. [23:26] <+MikeBleskie> Whoever it is should serve with the NPC [23:27] <+rintaran> Ok, I move that we forbid any acronyms beyond PPCA. [23:27] <~MikkelPaulson> non-profit corporation [23:27] <~MikkelPaulson> the Pirate Party of Canada Fund [23:27] <+rintaran> Ah. [23:27] <+rintaran> See, if you'd done NPO, I'd be good. [23:27] <+Nuitari> PR needs to help push what we already have [23:27] <+rintaran> But I do agree with that assessment. [23:27] <+Nuitari> for fundraising [23:27] <~MikkelPaulson> also I'm pretty sure you used "EC" about 20 minutes ago ;) [23:28] <+Nuitari> EDAs can organise local events and drives [23:28] <+MikeBleskie> LMAFO [23:28] <+rintaran> Your acronym is mixed up Mike. [23:28] <+MikeBleskie> ROLF [23:28] <+MikeBleskie> etc. [23:28] <+Nuitari> don't forget that the BGP must be done for the RFP ASAP else we'll be QWOP [23:28] <~MikkelPaulson> I like to roll on the laughing floor too [23:28] <+Nuitari> :P [23:29] <+rintaran> Ok, regardless of these acronym issues. We got a minute or two to wrap this one up. [23:29] <+Nuitari> could use a better design for the products page especially since we're getting more [23:30] <+rintaran> I'm guessing it's between Vulliez and I which of us are Fast or Thorough? [23:31] <~MikkelPaulson> basically [23:31] <~MikkelPaulson> with better titles [23:32] <~MikkelPaulson> does that look like a fair distribution? [23:32] <~MikkelPaulson> though if anyone wants to switcheroo portfolios that's fine too [23:33] <+rintaran> More or less. I'm sure Vulliez and I will trade bits back and forth as we see fit. [23:33] <+svulliez> Sure [23:33] <+rintaran> I do think any press releases concerning International Issues shoudld probably be handled by the International/Interpartisan liason though. [23:34] <~MikkelPaulson> well if any of us are operating completely in isolation we're doing it wrong [23:34] <+rintaran> True. [23:35] <+rintaran> Let's go with this for now then. [23:35] <+Nuitari> better a quick response then one from the right person [23:35] <+Nuitari> if someone in charge is unavailable it's ok to use your best judgement [23:35] <+rintaran> Last major topic of the night. Provincial & Municipal parties. Let's try to keep this short if possible. [23:36] <~MikkelPaulson> svulliez: Media Relations [23:36] <~MikkelPaulson> rintaran: Strategy [23:36] <~MikkelPaulson> MikeBleskie: Organization (?) [23:36] <~MikkelPaulson> Nuitari: Chief Agent [23:36] <+rintaran> Just send'm a txt. :) [23:36] <~MikkelPaulson> how does that sound? [23:36] <+MikeBleskie> Lol, me organized [23:36] <~MikkelPaulson> I don't know what to call it [23:36] <+MikeBleskie> networking? [23:36] <+rintaran> Leave the title as is for him. [23:36] <+rintaran> After all, EDAs are almost Interpartisan. [23:36] <~MikkelPaulson> ish [23:37] <+rintaran> You're still dealing with a semi-independant entity. [23:37] <~MikkelPaulson> they're intrapartisan really [23:37] <+MikeBleskie> Networking works for me. [23:37] <+MikeBleskie> ANYWAYS [23:37] <+MikeBleskie> BCPP [23:37] <~MikkelPaulson> right [23:37] <+MikeBleskie> As you may or may not know, I've flip-flopped on this before [23:37] <+Nuitari> +v gregb ? [23:37] <~MikkelPaulson> sure [23:37] <+MikeBleskie> So, I'm open to it now [23:38] <+MikeBleskie> Go ahead [23:38] <+Nuitari> gregb: hello? [23:39] <+Nuitari> well let's continue [23:39] <~MikkelPaulson> anyway [23:39] <~MikkelPaulson> I'm not opposed to creating provincial parties on principle [23:39] <~MikkelPaulson> but I do think this is way too early [23:40] <~MikkelPaulson> better to focus our efforts federally [23:40] <~MikkelPaulson> where issues like copyright are relevant [23:40] <+Nuitari> nothing wrong with other people focusing on provincial / regional [23:40] <+rintaran> I agree with that assessment. I'm not sure what's available in Provincial or Municipal law that deals with the Pirate Issues. [23:40] <~MikkelPaulson> privacy and transparency are the biggies I think [23:41] <+Nuitari> Privacy, transparency, net neutrality (in consumer laws) [23:41] <~MikkelPaulson> but if anyone criticizes us for having a limited platform, provincial parties would be doubly so [23:41] <+Nuitari> they would be free to set up their own provincial platform otherwise [23:41] <~MikkelPaulson> there isn't anything wrong with it, unless it diverts resources that we could have used [23:42] <+Nuitari> I'm not too worried about that [23:42] <~MikkelPaulson> and if we were to start spinoff parties, I think they would have to be governed on the same BYO-platform basis as we are [23:42] <~MikkelPaulson> otherwise if BCPP is super left-leaning and moderately successful, people will see us as left-leaning as well [23:43] <+Nuitari> most people think of us as left-leaning [23:43] <~MikkelPaulson> they have zero understanding of the separation between provincial and federal parties [23:43] <~MikkelPaulson> also, let's establish a convention right now [23:43] <~MikkelPaulson> provincial parties are PPCA-BC [23:44] <+Nuitari> I think the name recognition we'd get from it is worth any issue it can raise [23:44] <+Nuitari> plus we can always point out that provincial / regional party are only loosely tied to other parties [23:44] <+Nuitari> it works for the other major ones [23:44] <~MikkelPaulson> not really [23:45] <~MikkelPaulson> I frequently hear people bashing the NDP because they had a shit NDP provincial government [23:45] <+rintaran> You also can't be a part of the NDP Federally without being a part of the NDP provincially. [23:45] <~MikkelPaulson> the provincial Liberal Parties are being dragged down by the federal party [23:45] <+rintaran> It has a different structure from the rest of the parties. [23:45] <~MikkelPaulson> don't think it's an issue for the Conservatives in Alberta though [23:46] <~MikkelPaulson> aside from thinking that both parties are the shit [23:46] <~MikkelPaulson> since the right is divided here right now [23:46] <+Nuitari> I'm sure we can come to a fairly sound structure of things [23:46] <+Nuitari> and let people grow the other parties as they are interested [23:46] <+Nuitari> federal elections are in 4 years and we need to get more press going [23:47] <+Nuitari> plus I'm sure gregb and Jesse are reasonable [23:47] <~MikkelPaulson> also, by starting parties that have nothing to do with copyright, that serves to dilute our copyright-related message [23:47] <~MikkelPaulson> that's certainly not our only issue, but it's one of the most important [23:47] <+gregb> Hi [23:47] <+MikeBleskie> Excellent! [23:47] <~MikkelPaulson> ah, he lives [23:48] <+Nuitari> MikkelPaulson: provincial ones can also promote culture which is an important part of our argument [23:48] <+gregb> I do notice that in Germany they have 43 city municipal council seats. [23:48] <+Nuitari> education and healthcare are provincial and also heavily affected by federal issues (patent / copyright) [23:48] <~MikkelPaulson> Germany doesn't have regional parties though [23:48] <+MikeBleskie> Wrong [23:48] <+MikeBleskie> They do [23:49] <+MikeBleskie> They have a federalist structure [23:49] <+Nuitari> and I wouldn't be surprised if they have school board parties too [23:49] <+gregb> The new Russian pirate party says "We will participate, but not in national elections, we'll start at the local level." [23:49] <+gregb> Same with Romania. [23:50] <+Nuitari> gregb: USA also [23:50] <~MikkelPaulson> so PPDE does have regional spinoffs? [23:50] <+gregb> Scotland I believe the PP is running regional candidates. [23:50] <+MikeBleskie> USA is out of nessesity [23:50] <~MikkelPaulson> well USA doesn't have any other choice [23:50] <~MikkelPaulson> not that it's working particularly well for them [23:50] <+gregb> Agreed. [23:50] <+MikeBleskie> May I chime in here? [23:51] <~MikkelPaulson> of course [23:51] <+MikeBleskie> We all know that the Germans do have an effective system [23:51] <+MikeBleskie> They do indeed have a federalist structure with State parties [23:51] <+MikeBleskie> Now, it was reccomended by me we bring in the Germans, particularly the leaders of those State parties, to assist or advise [23:52] <+gregb> Probably a good idea. [23:52] <+MikeBleskie> As I said at the begining though [23:52] <~MikkelPaulson> when did you say that? [23:52] <+MikeBleskie> Last night [23:52] <~MikkelPaulson> not that I disagree [23:52] <+rintaran> During his initial report as well. [23:52] <~MikkelPaulson> oh, I missed that [23:52] <+MikeBleskie> Now [23:52] <+MikeBleskie> The problem is [23:52] <~MikkelPaulson> dur [23:52] <+MikeBleskie> First, the Germans now have their own problems [23:53] <+MikeBleskie> Secondly, I talked to Samir about this [23:53] <+MikeBleskie> he had advice [23:53] <+MikeBleskie> "I also think that the .cz pirates are a better example than the German pirates." [23:54] <+gregb> cz has three municipal councilors - for what it's worth. [23:54] <+MikeBleskie> "No, Germans always talk big about themselves," he said, "They also score better at  the ballots." [23:54] <+MikeBleskie> The Czechs are more generic, easier to copy [23:54] <+MikeBleskie> "You should not copy "German mutations" ( that are adeptions to german culture ) onto Canada." [23:55] <+MikeBleskie> Therefore, I'll try and reach the Czechs first [23:55] <+MikeBleskie> Okay, gregb? [23:55] <+Nuitari> gregb: what kind of timeline do we have here? [23:56] <+rintaran> I'd also like to see the draft for the constitution and initial platform of any provincial parties before giving the nod. [23:56] <+gregb> I don't want to do anything that is negative for us but at the same time I think that BC in particular is available for good purpose. [23:56] <+gregb> First of all, I have no ambitions as to leadership, etc. [23:57] <+gregb> We'd have to find a president type. [23:57] <+MikeBleskie> BC is stronger than any other province for this idea [23:57] <~MikkelPaulson> yeah, I think BC would be a good choice [23:57] <~MikkelPaulson> it's also our best province for per-riding membership [23:57] <+gregb> As far as timeline goes, I just don't want to find ourselves in the same position as the federal ie 3 weeks to prepare. [23:57] <+MikeBleskie> Unless we moved every canadian pirate to PEI [23:57] <~MikkelPaulson> with Alberta bizarrely in a close second [23:58] <~MikkelPaulson> we should [23:58] <~MikkelPaulson> then fight a war of independence with Canada [23:58] <~MikkelPaulson> or from Canada, rather [23:58] <+Nuitari> gregb: would Jesse be the leader? [23:58] <+gregb> Right now I have a chance to lease a prominent waterfront place - 6000 sq feet at about 1/4 of the going rate. [23:58] <~MikkelPaulson> for what? HQ? [23:58] <+gregb> No, not Jesse, he is great at some stuff but we acknowledge he has "flaws" that would seem to be incompatible with pres. [23:58] <+gregb> Yes, for HQ. [23:59] <~MikkelPaulson> we have thousands of members and we don't even have a headquarters [23:59] <+Nuitari> MikkelPaulson: also as a HQ for federal EDAs and candidates in the area I think [23:59] <+gregb> We have about 20-30 volunteers that we are going to lose if we don't get something of some sort going. [00:00] <+gregb> Yes, HQ for everything Pirate. [00:00] <+rintaran> I would go ahead and get and EDA going in the area. That's where we need to start. [00:00] <+gregb> We aren't even positive that we can get the place - I have to pull strings, but wanted to test the waters before I start pulling in favors. [00:00] <+gregb> favours. [00:00] <+rintaran> As for provincial party, I think we need to table that for now. We can put it first thing on next Thursdays agenda. That work for everyone? [00:01] <~MikkelPaulson> bear in mind that we're giving up a $30/mo space because it was underutilized [00:01] <+gregb> We have a complete team who wants to set up a "media centre". [00:02] <+gregb> Do commercials (tv, radio, etc). [00:02] <+gregb> However, Thursday seems OK with me. [00:02] <+rintaran> Ok, thanks gregb. It's getting really late in my timezone.. Rapture happened 5 minutes ago. ;) [00:02] <+gregb> I just didn't want to surprise anyone with anything "needs to be decided right now". [00:03] <+Nuitari> I think what worries some the most is if we get anyone with crazy ideas heading the party [00:03] <+gregb> At some point I'll list my political and technological background - it is reasonably extensive. [00:03] <+gregb> And restrained. [00:03] <+gregb> I have the same fear. [00:04] <+gregb> I sort of imagined that Jake might be interested in the job? [00:04] <~MikkelPaulson> doubtful [00:04] <+rintaran> Would it be possible for you to write up a proposal with your ideas & plans for the provincial party and send that to us between now and Thursday? I'd love more information on the direction and plans. [00:04] <+Nuitari> he's already working 3 jobs [00:04] <~MikkelPaulson> he doesn't have a lot of time [00:04] <+gregb> Not that I've even spoken to him. [00:04] <+gregb> Yes, and pictures. [00:04] <~MikkelPaulson> and exactly what volunteers/resources are available at this point [00:04] <+Nuitari> gregb: he sometimes comes to the main chat [00:05] <+gregb> If anyone knows Nanaimo the place is the old "Katerinas" restaurant. [00:05] <~MikkelPaulson> one nice thing about provincial parties is that we rarely have provincial and federal elections at the same time [00:05] <+gregb> zoned for assembly. [00:06] <+rintaran> That'd be great gregb. FC can we finish up? We have two quick bits left and can come back to this post-meeting? [00:06] <+gregb> Yes, I'll prepare a report. [00:06] <+Nuitari> MikkelPaulson: avec BCPP, PPQC would be logical as we'd have an election in about 2 years [00:06] <~MikkelPaulson> so members recruited provincially could be encouraged to volunteer federally [00:06] <~MikkelPaulson> and I'll be there to help :) [00:06] <+gregb> And municipally. [00:06] <~MikkelPaulson> yeah let's proceed [00:07] <+rintaran> Alright. Next is coming up with the schedule for next week's agenda. [00:07] <+rintaran> First after the reports will be Gregb & Provincial/Municipal parties, as promised. [00:08] <+rintaran> We'll give that a full 30 minutes. It seems it'll need the time. [00:08] <+rintaran> What else should we discuss next week? [00:10] <+rintaran> Nothing else? Short meeting then... [00:10] <~MikkelPaulson> mm [00:10] <~MikkelPaulson> I think we were going to revisit web design [00:10] <+rintaran> Actually, we should probably discuss modifications to the website some more next week. [00:10] <~MikkelPaulson> lawful access video script [00:11] <+rintaran> lol, same thought. Give the website 20 minutes, the script 10? [00:11] <~MikkelPaulson> sure [00:11] <+rintaran> Ok, we're at 65 minutes. [00:11] <~MikkelPaulson> nothing else comes to mind [00:11] <+rintaran> We should probably review the newsletter. 10 minutes? [00:12] <~MikkelPaulson> yeah [00:12] <+rintaran> Bleskie? Vulliez? Nuitari? [00:12] <+svulliez> Hello sir. [00:12] <+Nuitari> nothing to add [00:13] <+rintaran> Nothing else for the agenda at this point? [00:13] <+Nuitari> no [00:14] <+rintaran> Alright then. Last on today's agenda is reviewing the to-do list. Anyone think of something that we missed for assignments? [00:14] <+rintaran> (Link: http://pr.piratepad.ca/96)http://pr.piratepad.ca/96 [00:14] <+Nuitari> when is the newsletter going to be sent? [00:15] <+rintaran> Hopefully shortly after the meeting next week. We'll be reviewing it at the meeting for any necessary changes. [00:15] <+rintaran> Well, we'll need to get someone to translate first, but it'll go out as quickly as that can be done. [00:15] <+Nuitari> ok [00:16] <+Nuitari> got to go, baby [00:16] <+rintaran> Alright then. By the sounds of it we're done today's agenda. [00:16] <+rintaran> Here ends the official meeting.

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