PC 2012-09-16 transcript

Transcript of the PC meeting until it moved to the Remixgov Piratepad: 

Sid scshunt Wilson and Patrick, i call this PC meeting to order Has everyone had a chance to look at the two piratepads? the local involvement one and the remixgov one  yup  for the record I really dont like having to pay attention to two channels at once but that might just be me  Yup  to Shawn  Er wait perhaps not?  http://piratepad.ca/MRO1xri2i9  That? yep, and there is a second one it was sent in the email after the last meeting.. 1 sec http://piratepad.ca/lBfACXJAQ3 madi since you're on the remix team, you dont need to worry as much about that  Steve mentioned you were going to send me an email, but I never got it. although we are accepting input between the two groups hmm, definitely mailed you a few times oh, seems the mail was rejected by piratemail for some reason  The last email I got from you on  was on September second welcoming me to the PC  Yeah just tried sending it again  Got it  Thanks  so assuming we've seen the piratepads what did you want to say Shawn? Does anyone here mind google docs? Or should I just do another pad? I prefer docs somewhat, but I'll pad if someone wants i don't mind either way i was going to suggest that we focus on the remixgov issue today because most of the local team isn't here we have the whole remix team right? yep rlim is here too  may I get two things out of the way before we dive into the Remix? sure you have the floor. <Wilson> 1. Have we heard any interest from people in Toronto about running in the by-election there? 2. I would like to motion we add the blog 'Techdirt' to the list of peers on the site 1. Not that I've heard. No one out in Durham either. RLim has joined #canada-pc 2. Which list? <Wilson> on the main page to the left, last one on list is Through the eyes of a pirate i don't object to adding techdirt Is that just a links bar? Peers implies some sort of affiliation <Wilson> To my knowledge we are not officially afiliated with all of the others, we simply share similiar goals I'm a fan of adding techdirt, anyway <Patrick> Good point we should separate those ones which we think are cool and good and those which are actually actively supporting us as well the idea was that we were going to have a peers bar and a seeds bard bar the seeds would be concise pirate-ideology related articles that we host and we could reclaim some torrenting terminology and build positive associations ah in favour of adding techdirt <Wilson> aye likewise, all in favor say aye aye svulliez Quit anon5355 has joined #canada-pc <Sid> aye anon5355 is now known as shawnv aye the motion carries. we will add techdirt. as for toronto, i have nothing to report I give notice that I intend to move for the election of a Deputy Leader at the next meeting. <Wilson> duly noted <Patrick> You know we could always do that right now if you wanted <Patrick> Actually we should see who is interested though who is interested in taking the role? Patrick: I don't think we can. Election to fill a vacant office requires notice i intend to serve out the rest of my term, but having someone to fill in would not be a bad idea i thought the constitution says that the pc just holds a vote amongst themselves? yeah, but RONR says it needs notice what if Steve wants it, for instance? <Wilson> its 1 week, i don't see waiting to be an issue...unless you plan to up and die on us, Shawn >:P yeah i'm going to stay as alive as I can giving notice is a good idea good answer <Wilson> ok, on to remix then? <Patrick> Make sure you tell us 2 weeks in advance before you die ah, yeah I'm drafting a report at <Redacted-GoogleDoc> <Sid> For the record, Steve doesn't want to run, I just texted him and asked. <Sid> For the record, Steve doesn't want to run, I just texted him and asked. haha k shawn Quit <Sid> For DL Did anyone ever reply to that guy asking how to help? nvm Johann got it <Wilson> oh before I forget: Shawn, did you ever make me an admin of the facebook page? yes <Wilson> ok, I'll have to look into that later today.. thx Shawn <Sid> ACK, James, I just saw your message to me. Went to reply with a link to my post about me not running anymore, and it's not even there! This is the same problem I've had three times on the forum now, it's why I didn't reply any further reply on my PC nomination post either. Has anyone else been having this many problems with the forum? Should I just make a new account? <Sid> Argh <JMcleod> deputy leader? <Sid> No for Calgary-Centre <Sid> So I guess that means only Shawn has known I'm not running anymore <Sid> Derp <Wilson> I've had a few problems with the forum but it hasn't ate a topic yet. This is a bit of bad news, we may not have a candidate for either by-election :( yeah, its a bit disappointing but i think there are other ways we can participate madi can do great stuff on the PC an election would just burn her out quickly as for the forum, thats concerning <Wilson> Out of sheer curiousity; Shawn, if push came to shove would you be willing to parachute into either by-election(without causing undue hardship of course)? <RLim> yeah same applies for shawnv. If there's no big gain, no point running because it will take a bit to recover and paperwork from my understanding there is a promising green candidate in calgary that madi is supporting <Patrick> I think we're only required to run in full blown elections... also we need to get up to what 600 members again to remain a party come 2013 from what I understand <Wilson> I am a little concerned we are staying out of the public eye too much <Sid> Actually part of the reason I am not going to run is because I don't think it would be in our best interests to have someone run in the Calgary-Centre by-election due to the strongly "progressive" community coming together under an already very organized and supported Green candidate, which would be terrible to try and split in the context of just trying to make even a tiny dent in Harper's BS. I think we have a chance to change ur lack of visibility with remixgov I wuld have to take the time off work to run in toronto, but if the party completely bankrolled it I'd consider going in the by-election Although thats not really my ideal choice, i imagine i'd get pretty burned out and want to curl up into a ball afterwards <Wilson> I think we nixed bankrolling campaigns after the last fiasco <Sid> I am interested in pursuing building a strong base to begin with over the next couple of years here, to indeed become more visible and organized on the ground so as to not come in out of nowhere just causing people to become more disenfranchised as votes are further split. juzt4me has joined #canada-pc sorry, back sorry i'm late, had something that came up Sid: you're withdrawing to endorse the green candidate? <Sid> I'm not endorsing anyone, I am being realistic. I really wish my post had actually saved on the forums, it explained this in a lot more detail, since it is also regarding my personal financial/job situation getting in the way. I can't imagine why that would happen to your posts :/ very concerning indeed our communication infastructure is a bit bunged up right now Sid: Ok <Sid> They were just coming up blank before, I should have double checked to make sure it showed up, my bad :/ yeah, I've stopped visiting the forums me too <Wilson> i barely visit, mostly because there are few posts, a viscious cycle I think we ought to archive it all and start fresh with a simple layout and only a few subforums for now <Patrick> Personally I wouldnt object to wiping and/or creating a new clean forum <JMcleod> I agree with Shawn <JMcleod> Shawn: Do we have a deputy leader? <Sid> That sounds ideal. JMcleod: Will be appointed next week no, we're determining next week giving notice to see who wants to be it then appointing it or rather, voting on it <JMcleod> Alright <Wilson> anyway, is the googledoc just lacking a concluding sentence now? yeah, i think with a good call to action at the end there, its about ready not an impressive as heck quarter, but something to get people moving <Wilson> paragraph 3, last sentence needs finishing JMcleod has joined #canada-pc <Sid> ox is not hurr ^ http://piratepad.ca/MRO1xri2i9 jesse is everyone lets hop in this piratepad and discuss the ideas therein and add more! ah right can we finish the report? two sentences are unfinished Oh yes, sure. <Redacted-Googledoc> Patrick scshunt Sid Wilson juzt4me give it a proof read I scshunt I suppose <Patrick> yeah I move to approve that as the PC report seconded any objections? <Patrick> looks good seems fine to me passed, we have done our first quarterly report i hope our next one is more explosive. :) <Patrick> We could always put some C4 in the report :P <Patrick> Mythbusters style heh moving onto remixgov.ca is everyone in the etherpad? http://piratepad.ca/MRO1xri2i9 say hello in the chat in the etherpad when you are there lets discuss some of the ideas from this week

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