GM 2012-11-21 transcript



All log times are in Central Time.

19:00 * JMcleod O 19:00  * JMcleod R 19:00  * JMcleod D 19:00  * JMcleod E 19:00  * JMcleod R 19:00  * JMcleod ======== 19:01 <@JMcleod> Its 8:00 - we are 7 waiting for more :) 19:01 what are the topics for today? 19:02 <@JMcleod> basically updating people on what has been going on these past months 19:02 <+pappasadrian> alright 19:03 <@RLim> did someone post about the meeting on our Facebook and Twitter account? 19:03 <@JMcleod> I did not 19:03 <+jlamothe> There was a mass e-mail. 19:03 <+jlamothe> At least, I assume it was a mass e-mail. 19:04 <@JMcleod> nah, we just discussed it and made sure to email jlamothe 19:04 <@JMcleod> :) 19:04 * jlamothe feels important. 19:05 <@JMcleod> You are, how would you like to become the next Dear Leader of the Party? 19:05 <+jlamothe> I would, but the past few weeks have been super crazy. Things're finally starting to level off, though. 19:06 < Channel6> what 19:06 < Channel6> oh 19:07 <@RLim> someone just liked a video on our twitter account. Can they please post a meeting notice also? 19:07 <+TeamColtra> I would require "Oh Merciful Leader Whose Name Is To Holy To Speak" 19:08 <@RLim> is that you? lol 19:09 <@RLim> it's a good video 19:10 <@RLim> can you please post a notice oh merciful leader -ditto- ^ ^ :) 19:10 <@RLim> ? 19:13 < JohannWeiss> Hey guys 19:14 <@RLim> hey 19:14 <@JMcleod> hey Johann 19:14 < JohannWeiss> Just got off work, got to go shower, but I'll be back inlike 20. 19:14 <@JMcleod> only 8 atm, in 20 mins we might be adjourned 19:14 < JohannWeiss> Also, talked to Shawn last night and he's working untill 8 (pst), so he wont be able to make it 19:14 <@JMcleod> You get a hold of Jake? 19:15 < JohannWeiss> Well count me for qourum and if we don't make it then we can chat for a bit 19:15 <@RLim> your id and e-mail JohannWeiss ? 19:15 < JohannWeiss> No, he's been incomminicado since he's personal issue 19:16 <@RLim> Well hopefully Shawn have seen him and see that he is fine 19:17 < JohannWeiss> Alright, I'm off, be back in 20 or so 19:19 * MononcQc totally forgot the meeting 19:19 < MononcQc> I can still log in or something 19:19 * MononcQc is working a bit of overtime 19:19 <@JMcleod> yeah 19:19 <@JMcleod> were still waiting to get 15 people 19:20 < MononcQc> 6 missing then 19:20 < MononcQc> let me go find my log in info 19:21 < MononcQc> I've been skipping a lot of meetings lately 19:21 <@JMcleod> Well youre not alone 19:21 <@JMcleod> we havent had quorum for 2-3 months now 19:22 < MononcQc> elections are too far away for people to care I guess :/ 19:23 <@JMcleod> Probably 19:23 <@JMcleod> Pretty sure more would show up if the cons were minority 19:23 < MononcQc> wait, where are the login options to auth myself here? 19:25 <@RLim> MononcQc: pm me your e-mail and id. doing it manually 19:26 <+jlamothe> We really need to re-automate that. 19:29 <@JMcleod> Well since Mikkel vanished, stenobot vanished alongside him 19:31 <+jlamothe> The source is published... although, I hear it's buggy. 19:32 <@JMcleod> Well I'd like the source, where is it? 19:32 < JohannWeiss> I'm back 19:32 <@RLim> yeah I've been asking for the source also 19:32 <@JMcleod> Hey Johann, with you, were only 10 :( 19:33 <@RLim> is it written in php? 19:33 <@JMcleod> Yeah it is 19:33 <@JMcleod> (he showed me when I met him) 19:33 <@RLim> met who? Mikkel? 19:33 <@JMcleod> yeah 19:34 <+jlamothe> https://github.com/piratepartyca/Stenobot <-- stenobot's source 19:34 <+JohannWeiss> FYI, Shawn, my fiancee and I, got the membership cards prepped last night. 19:34 <+JohannWeiss> We will be able to send them out as soon as we can get the addresses off the crm. 19:35 <@JMcleod> Oh your fiancee huh 19:35 <@JMcleod> *puts on creeper glasses* 19:36 <+JohannWeiss> She will remain nameless. 19:36 <+JohannWeiss> :) 19:36 <@JMcleod> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPZmPaHme0 19:36 <@JMcleod> Well since its your fiancee you should give her a name 19:36 <@JMcleod> Ok seriously 19:37 <@JMcleod> Anyone have anything 19:37 <@JMcleod> Since we dont have quorum, might as well look into concerns should anyone have any 19:39 <+jlamothe> I'm concerned by our lack of quorum... apart from that, not a whole lot. 19:39 <@JMcleod> So am I :S 19:39 <@RLim> In the spirit of transparency we should probably go through the problem we've been having 19:40 <+JohannWeiss> It's frustrating because we don't have a way to ask people why they aren't coming (unless they come, in which case the problem is solved) 19:40 <@RLim> JMcleod: You want me to go over them? 19:40 <@JMcleod> Yeah, because my resumé of the problem is : We dont have access to the bank and its pissing everyone off. 19:41 <@RLim> yes 19:41 <@RLim> we've been having a lot of problem with our server lately. So we are looking to switch to Hertzner 19:41 <@RLim> but in order to do that we need access to our bank acocunt 19:41 <@RLim> plus we also have bills due for our current ISP 19:42 <@RLim> our current server is acting very weird 19:42 <@RLim> various service will go down 19:42 <@RLim> for example wiki always go down when I am updating the minutes 19:42 <@RLim> e-mail mailout does not work, etc 19:43 <@RLim> we also discover 19:43 <@RLim> or rather adpaolucci discover that our server is running protein folding calculations 19:43 <@RLim> which take up our server resources and takes priority over everything else 19:43 <@JMcleod> (exec board does meet with quorum so Ric has minutes to upload for real! Look em over at http://wiki.pirateparty.ca/index.php/Executive_Board ) 19:44 <@JMcleod> Ok but what is protein folding (I got no clue what that is) 19:44 <@RLim> Not sure if someone is being generous to a scientific cause or it was maliciously put there to negatively impact our server 19:44 <+jlamothe> How many people have that kind of access? 19:44 <@RLim> similar to offering your computer to do cancer cure modeling when it's not in use 19:45 <+JohannWeiss> Minor interrupting point: The bank issue was because it's controlled by the Pirate Party Fund and the directors had changed. There are three directors but but now they are in different provinces and the bank is having serious issues having the paperwork figured out. 19:45 <@RLim> exec board minutes from last meeting is not up yet since wiki went down as I was updating and only came back few days ago 19:45 <@RLim> Only a few 19:46 <@JMcleod> Well before jhowell was IT director, a lot more had access (including myself) 19:46 <@RLim> but I remember our previous IT person (Nuitari) noticed our Capt was accessed 19:46 <@RLim> but nothing was observed to be deleted or altered 19:46 <@JMcleod> And has the software been removed? 19:47 <@RLim> It just seems weird the way the servers are behacing 19:47 <@RLim> *behaving 19:47 <@RLim> adpaolucci just got access and have done a quick review and it does not seem to be well organized 19:48 <+adpaolucci> It is a total shit show. 19:48 <@RLim> I am still waiting for my access. been few months now with all the access and server issues 19:48 <+pappasadrian> is it a dedicated server? 19:48 <@RLim> our pirateparty.ca also intermittently goes down. Getting bounced message that it was taking too long/. 19:48 <+adpaolucci> The server itself is good, it's just really miss configured 19:49 <+pappasadrian> why not start over? 19:49 <+adpaolucci> I think we should make some backups and do a total reinstall of the box 19:49 <+pappasadrian> complete reinstall of everything 19:49 <+adpaolucci> it could be done in a weekend 19:49 <@RLim> So like JohannWeiss mentioned. We need access to our bank account. And it's been a real pain trying to get them to change to the new director. We should probably show them Election Canada's website with new names. 19:49 <@RLim> So it's up to Vancouver and Quebec branch to sort this out. 19:49 <+pappasadrian> with correct scheduling and scripting it can be done overnight 19:50 <+adpaolucci> and alot of testing before hand 19:50 <+pappasadrian> what's up with the bank? 19:50 <@RLim> I heard Vancouver was having problem because it says Jake when Jake's name is Jacob or something silly like that. 19:50 <@RLim> When I went to sign my paper in the bank they caught that rightaway and says yeah Jacob is Jake 19:50 <+jlamothe> Typical. 19:51 <@RLim> Jake have some personal issues to attend to so it delayed it a bit firther. 19:51 <@RLim> *further 19:52 <@RLim> He is probably the best person to follow-up with Vancouver 19:52 <@RLim> If we can get a hold of our previous IT/agent Nuitari, we can kindly ask if he could contact Quebec branch. 19:53 <@RLim> ANyway we can direct new signup fee and donation to another account? 19:53 <@RLim> There might be strict Election Canada rule of funds going directly to bank account. 19:54 <@RLim> We were waiting for access to our funds before opening a new account. 19:54 <@RLim> Could we just open the new one and deposit new funds there? 19:55 <@JMcleod> I wouldnt know anything about banks 19:55 <@RLim> and also adpaolucci look at our webstat and our visitors have flatlined. 19:55 <@RLim> i.e. we are not getting any visitors to our site 19:56 <@RLim> could be partly due to not much activity. Last few GM was under quorum mainly because we can't get meeting notice out in time again due to mailout / server issues 19:56 <+adpaolucci> Net Graph: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3449800/afficheGraph.png 19:56 <@RLim> also our current IT head have proposed a new setup 19:56 <@RLim> JMcleod: do you have jhowell document? 19:57 <@JMcleod> Hey Wilson 19:57 < Wilson> yo 19:57 <@JMcleod> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/666ey6mxqtcu4hd/X4MA1-jpYg 19:57 <+adpaolucci> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3449800/PPCA%20Future%20State%20IT%20Model.pdf 19:58 <+JohannWeiss> Did we really drop that fast? 19:59 <+adpaolucci> YUP! 19:59 <@JMcleod> what does that mean 20:00 <+adpaolucci> All traffic to the PPC webstie and services has dropped to almost non 20:00 <+adpaolucci> (a handful of people) 20:00 < CCitizen> is the meeting still going on 20:00 <@RLim> what month did we switch over? 20:01 <@JMcleod> Hey CCitizen meeting is going on without quorum 20:01 < CCitizen> Ah 20:01 <@JMcleod> so we are discussing things, but cant make/pass motions 20:01 <@RLim> hey CCitizen, sign in? 20:01 < CCitizen> Done 20:01 <@RLim> oops you beat me to it 20:02 <+adpaolucci> So right now I just want to throw in the idea of reinstalling everything on the server during a weekend 20:02 <+adpaolucci> aka a clean install with the current hardware 20:02 <@RLim> go for it since we don't have any visitor :P 20:02 <@RLim> just make sure we don't lose the data from wiki and everything else 20:03 <@RLim> coordinate it with jhowel 20:03 <@RLim> jhowell: 20:03 <+adpaolucci> Well... is that a go ahead... 20:03 <+adpaolucci> IT boys! Get in the ITComm room, we need to plan! CCitizen, jhowel, etc 20:03 <@RLim> we have most of the EB here. if there's no objection confirm with jhowell 20:04 <@JMcleod> lol :) 20:05 <@JMcleod> Anything else? 20:05 <@RLim> that covers most I think. 20:05 <@RLim> ANy questions? 20:07 <+Wilson> more of a comment: So I see we found a temp. workaround for the email problem. *tiny celebration* 20:08 <@JMcleod> ok well we are 12 so ill move to adjourn 20:08 <@JMcleod> The motion currently on the floor is: adjourn 20:08 * JMcleod JMcleod, RLim , adpaolucci , CCitizen , jlamothe , JohannWeiss , lcameron , Mcgrath , MononcQc , pappasadrian , TeamColtra , Wilson 20:08 <@JMcleod> The motion currently on the floor is: adjourn 20:08 <@JMcleod> You are voting on the main motion 20:08 <@JMcleod> The voting starts now. All in agreement with the motion say 'Aye'. All who disagree say 'Nay' 20:08 <@RLim> aye 20:08 <+Wilson> Aye 20:08 <+adpaolucci> Aye! 20:10 <+jlamothe> aye 20:10 <@JMcleod> Ayes: 4 Nays: 0 20:10 <@JMcleod> The following motion has passed: adjourn 20:10 <@JMcleod> There is no motion currently on the floor



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