GM 2013-08-21 transcript

 >Meeting< starts in 10 minutes >#Canada< Meeting starts in 10 minutes  brb need to add my new BNC to the IRC serve so I can reop looks like the GM notice didn't go out :P IT did *It did, I got it +1 - got it here When I tried logging into the website, it said the mailout was paused due to an STMP error. >adpaolucci< are you doing authenticating? >#canada< Please PM adpaolucci your e-mail and PIN for Voice. Does anybody want to take minutes or add anything to the agenda? im cool with the minutes also, hello Mordecai i dont think ive seen you around before **not minutes i meant the agenda should travis' absence be discussed, phillipsjk ? i can take minutes if needed - log started This may be yet another informal meeting due to lack of quorum.  hello hello actually, i need to switch devices so brb The VP is not present either.. Did Travis drop off the face of the Earth? HI CraigNobbs  Hello =) phillipsjk: Travis had a mental breakdown was just saying you weren"t here.  merci buckets I heard through the grape-vine we might not see him for a while. but not why. CraigNobbs, you would make 8 in attendance, quorum is 15. Any ideas? lower quorum he sent a detailed email to the pc pappasadrian: want to forward that to the EB? well, actually no, considering there's sensitive data in it suggestion: a statement should be prepared for the general membership (transparency and all) I am not opposed to said suggestion. (Though It may be vague)  Does that mean that James is now stepping up to take over that place?  Is this a short term temporary thing or something long term? Is Travis still running for office? well I can tell you that he asked for a month off, and he described the reason why That is why I have the Constitution open.. The Political Council has a Deputy leader. Craig, idk if one month can be considered temporary I called in the Americans to observe and learn from our mistakes :) According to the Wiki, James Wilson is the Deputy Leader. So I need to kill James Wilson is what you are saying? actually, what Travis asked is for a temporary leave of absense for a month So I think for now the easiest thing to do is leave it, the party can "operate" without Travis for a month, it's not like anyone else is doing what they need to do I recently bombed my TEDx talk which would have given me the opportunity to educate so many people on Mincome (something that I support more than almost anything else). Sure part of it was stage fright (something I rarely deal with) but also it was in part due to my apathy of the speaking event and not putting enough time into memorizing my speech. I let the party down, I let mincome down, and I let myself down. I feel that recently I have not been givin part of his email. meh, it's not like the TEDxTalk mattered, I got him a place to talk next year too actually, it's most of it, sensitive info excluded the dude who runs it owes me  poor guy So is anyone going to discuss the forward movement of the party or is it ok if I just leave? well the only thing to be discussed about that Hopefully poor attendance was mostly due to the summer break. would be the potential alternative form of gms Forum, I'm going to set one up again. Travis was stupid to opt for Reddit asynchronous, preferably I agree with the forum. as long as we all try to keep it alive. a dead forum is worse than no forum in my eyes at least even if just to link to outrageous new stories. even that  why doesn't anyone use the reddit forum anyways? or just small talk  Soooooo How many people are here? do we have enough to make quorum?  If people won't use that, why would they use a forum? CraigNobbs: not by my count I don't like reedit that much So what software should I use for the forum? phpbb, vanilla?  PHPBB PHPBB it is phpbb? classic methods I agree I distrust reddit because it is hosted in the US, but I am picky. simple, yet powerful can we lock the new forums in for x years? I've had all my posts on PPCA forums wiped 3 times now. If we move to PHPBB and I am in power for IT, we will never switch again I was thinking News if it is any easier to administer (I doubt it) have we kept the databases? Yup I have the old ones we could migrate old posts perhaps  Soooooo How many people are here? do we have enough to make quorum?  weird Craig, nope We don't have quorum so this is not an official meeting, this is a get shit done meeting CraigNobbs: need 8 more  ./sign / 7 more  ./sigh hi thor hallo  ok. I'll hang around for another 20 minutes... but after that, we should call it. So PHPBB, I'll process members by hand and create an email for people to make accounts 6 more, CraigNobbs is not voiced either <CraigNobbs> we all have better things to do than sit around <CraigNobbs> afk 10.... dinner CraigNobbs, so talk and stop bitching We can't make changes now, but we can get the ball rolling on shit you guys haven't started on easy, everyone Everyone has wiki accounts now, is it up to date? I have not had a chance to update the last 3 non-meetings or so. I'm sorry, I haven't had the chance to look into that yet I haven't been on a normal PC for 2 months now so getting shit done becomes tricky You' You're on the PC so it's ok. As for the guys on the EB... START FUCKING DOING SHIT PC people are supposed to do shit too I think don't exclude me from the rant :-P I really don't care. I just want to see shit get done. If not I'm just going to let this ship sink and build my own Go join the online party or the futurists alright, I'll try to see what I can do the following days/weeks I have seen the online Party's website. We don't want to be them. also, I understand the frustration <Mordecai> What shit needs to be done exactly? I've seen our website. I don't want to me us either. Fragmented and disorganized. *be ok, fuck it. No one wants to talk Peace. what I think we need is something that wakes the memberbase up. idk why nsa spying failed to do that actually I was trying to figure out an issue with my wiki login seems I no longer exist as a user :( <Mordecai> Well there aren't alot of updates on the website or anything to keep members interested. Who is running the PC now and willing to make posts? we're in this standstill because there is nothing to do. <Mordecai> People barely talk in here, and even less on the reddit or we don't find things to do idk Does someone, anyone want access to the Twitter and site to start posting? adpaolucci: i can do so Then do so. Do you have access? extrovert things, that is I think bringing back the forum (without pulling the rug) may do more than we know. adpaolucci: lemme check.  brb I can do twitter too <Mordecai> I am willing to do anything. do you know phpbb?  Yes Mordecai? <Mordecai> No. I should have said anything unrelated to IT. oh well  Andrew, if you need any help with phpbb, especially the boring parts  setting up boards and permissions and all that let me know You can do that shit, I'll spin it up now and you can set it up I'm tired of this shit. okay, I'll do what I can. starting tomorrow though. Mordecai, do you llike writing? <Mordecai> I do. want to write a piece about nsa and spying and all recent events with me? <CraigNobbs> ok, I'm back. <Mordecai> sure I haven't seen something official on topic from ppca <CraigNobbs> how's quorum going? <Mordecai> Yeah, I would be down. CraigNobbs: no change <CraigNobbs> boooo etherpad's good for you? <Mordecai> Yeah that'll work. alright, but not tonight though.. it's way too late for me to do that kind of thing >#canada< Meeting is canceled due to lack of quorum. Thank-you to those who stayed for the informal meeting. <Mordecai> okay, yeah, we don't neccessarily have to work on it at the same time either. <Mordecai> unless you think that is better exactly. I think I"ll go though all the aborted agendas of the past few months to try to start a new agenda for the new meeting. well typically it'd be better but given the time difference <CraigNobbs> later fellas bye Craig  Mordecai, email me at adrian.pappas@pirateparty.ca if you want <Mordecai> okay cool. so we'll stay in touch about this  cool, and thanks for the help  back on topic of today's agenda.  given that we will be getting a forum  that's a good platform for asynchronous meetings  both for discussion and for voting  we just need rules of procedure tailored for a forum environment  fwiw, I share adpaolucci's frustration. we've been going around in circles for 4 years (i joined in '09). well, if you ask me, ppca's main problem is that we're trying to do things too formally. personally I don't like that  meeting etiquette, rop  etc  if anything, we need to get to know each other before qnything else. huh, the redddit subforum still says the next meeting is May 15 :P hmm. i like the formality of meetings - members who become candidates will need those skills should the candidate get elected. as a developer, my theory is to make the formalities simple - from a ux perspective asyncronous communications ftw ;-) heh goodnight guys <Mordecai> Goodnight man, I'll e-mail you about that article. cheers. night pappasadrian alright, ttyl
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