GM 2014-05-21 transcript

  How was this party started? I have to eat soon, so if I miss some parts, I just want people to know that I contacted some places for hosting the VPN, and I am still waiting for them to get back to me.  What is this party advocating for? heading home now but will login and verify in about 10 mins  webchat_2983: by some university students afaik  on a forum webchat_2983, our policies are listed on www.pirateparty.ca  Don't have the name of the original founders but they are from across Canada  what steps are you taking to advocate for the policies  In addition what is your mission statement? Something that is in a couple of words?  How many people are linked to your cause?  ok, lets try going through those questions  webchat_2983: as a political party, we run candidates during the election. Off election years we usually join advocacy groups cause  We don't have a mission statement. We are hoping to have that done with some good copywriter if there's any volunteer. So that we can add that to our policieis for 2015 election  But our press release generally have this footer  The Pirate Party of Canada is a federal political party focused on thoughtful information policy reform, genuine democracy, civil liberties, and the freedom of the Internet.  History of the party is here: https://www.pirateparty.ca/about/history/ webchat_2983: also, can you clarify "linked to our cause" - cause is a fairly broad term  What election positions are you running for the coming years? <RLim> yeah ^. We find we have supporters that comes out during election but are generally busy with daily life during other times <webchat_2983> Do you have enough support to make it to a high post? <RLim> that's something we have to work on with our limited resources <Wilson> As far as number of members...I can't recall the exact number but our member mailout is over 1000 and our Facebook page is at 6800. 5227 followers on @piratepartyca err, 5277 webchat_2983: https://www.pirateparty.ca/ <more information there on policy <RLim> hi BrentSchaffrick <BrentSchaffrick> hi <RLim> 5 down 5 more to go <BrentSchaffrick> do I have one hour or two before meeting starts? <RLim> message me with your e-mail address <Wilson> Election positions: Our platform from 2011: https://www.pirateparty.ca/about/platform/ Policies currently being reviewed for 2015: https://www.pirateparty.ca/about-this-page/ <RLim> negative 12 webchat_2983: not sure if this helps much but my own followers jumped by more than a 1000 when we ran candidates in the last federal election <webchat_7082> i'm just curious; what is the cause of the Pirate Party? What is the Pirate Party's main goal? <RLim> Expect more detailed policies on information policy, democracy etc for 2015 election Looks like somebody made us a homework assignment, <RLim> ip card which was created <RLim> my membership card which was created early on have the following main points <RLim> copyright reform <webchat_7082> what steps are the Pirate Party taking to enact its beliefs? <RLim> reform of patent systems <RLim> privacy <RLim> net neutrality - expanding that to Open Internet <RLim> Open Government <RLim> Digital Sovereignty <RLim> We are expanding our policies but generally along the lines of unhampered information sharing, improving democracy and privacy <Wilson> Steps: Raising awareness of our platform through the media, recruiting candidates for 2015, fundraising money so we can have an effective national campaign. Recently we appeared before the Senate to give our views on C-23 <webchat_7082> oh nice Love this one :) https://twitter.com/PiratePartyUK/status/468862589548888064 <Wilson> If you haven't done so already, members please PM RLim your email address and he'll send the verification code. <webchat_7082> whats the link to the Pirate Party Facebook page? <Wilson> https://www.facebook.com/piratepartyca?ref=hl <Wilson> psema4 Nice link @PiratePartyUK's latest media is generally awesome - more here: @PiratePartyUK's latest media is generally awesome - more here: [#canada] @PiratePartyUK's latest media is generally awesome - more here: sorry - https://twitter.com/PiratePartyUK/media <Wilson> oh noes psema4's internal processor glitched. Androids are so hard to keep running these days  ;P xo <RLim> there will be a joint statement / press release tomorrow morning. We will be a signatory to it <RLim> so keep an eye out <RLim> need 1 more after the two in the queue verified their number <RLim> psema4: yeah I want one too. I'll probably trust it more than an Android I saw one at LinuxFest NW was pretty snappy and nice looking too <Wilson> RLim, you want to ping the people who are idling since I know some of them are members? <RLim> yeah not all <Wilson> I called Anthony but no answer. Did inform him about it a few days ago. <RLim> ping MononcQc McGrath XFaCE <RLim> We should be good to go once MHoude get his code <RLim> I will likely be in and out of the meeting after giving my report <MononcQc> RLim, I'm not available. I'm currently in Vancouver at work and will be leaving in ~15 minutes <RLim> ok np <RLim> we are good to go Mr. Chairman <RLim> or Mr. President <CCitizen> Alright <CCitizen> Well first we'll take the minutes from the last meeting and approve them <CCitizen> The link phillipsjk gave me earlier for that was ... https://wiki.pirateparty.ca/index.php?title=GM_2014-03-16_minutes <BrentSchaffrick> I'll make the motion to accept the minutes as presented second <RLim> the date needs to be corrected? <CCitizen> Ah right... the date should be April 16, 2014 <CCitizen> Assuming the date is corrected and no objections lets vote on accepting the minutes <CCitizen> Vote to accept minutes with date correction now aye aye <RLim> aye <BrentSchaffrick> aye aye <Wilson> aye <CCitizen> aye aye <CCitizen> Voting Closed - For: 8, Against: 0, Abstain 0. Motion Accepted <CCitizen> Alright now the Agenda for this meeting everyone can find at... https://www.piratepad.ca/p/PPCA_GM_Agenda_05-21-2014 <webchat_2201> Excuse me, do you guys have some time to answer some questions? <CCitizen> Now in keeping with the Agenda... We're going to go through the reports to the GM starting with Ric Lim as our Chief Agent representative. <Wilson> We are actually in a meeting but you can pm me. <RLim> please take any questions or discussions unrelated to the meeting to #riffraff webchat_2201, not right now; we are in a meeting. You can try #canada-riffraff <Wilson> or that <CCitizen> Non-meeting related conversation should be taken to #canada-riffraff (/j #canada-riffraff) <RLim> Sorry webchat_2201 we are in a meeting but post it on #riffraff <webchat_2201> Alright, thanks! <RLim> ah CCitizen <RLim> Ok the financial updates <RLim> https://my.pirateparty.ca/publicdoc/2014-05_financial_status.pdf <RLim> so as you can see we need more fudns <RLim> *funds <RLim> we are thinking of restaring our merchandize at Zazzle <RLim> Here's one of the new design Please - my hoodie's been pretty heavily beat up <RLim> since we don't have money to pre-order, we would use Zazzle for now <RLim> But we would also be getting interest for a two tone hoodie with a purple colour inside <RLim> and with the same design as that t-shirt <RLim> http://www.zazzle.com/silver_logo_on_purple_t_shirt-235530641704584550 <CCitizen> Also it's going to become part of our policy that we'll provide full info for the month before the GM (IE. April in this case of the May GM) as all that will be set in stone and give a brief update on stuff that has happened since the beginning of the month to the best of our abilities. <RLim> The Financial Update includes upcoming spendings. So at the end of November we are expecting to have only about $1,000 plus left <RLim> assuming we pay for one year of server hosting <CCitizen> And we dont switch over to SoYouStart.com which would save us quite a bit of money on hosting. <RLim> yeah this months is more like balance forward from April and expenses and income to May 17th. Then next 6 months <RLim> expenses <RLim> but yeah we should stick with reporting last month's financial going forward <RLim> Minor correction. I am not the chief agent <CCitizen> Alright well we do have some upcoming expenses in the summer months. Including server hosting. That said we should not need to worry too much at the moment. <RLim> THe Pirate Party of Canada Fund is <RLim> :) <CCitizen> Well you're here on behalf of the chief agent <RLim> ok. <RLim> That's it for my report. Any questions <CCitizen> But right... Ric is not the Chief Agent he's the one in charge of the Pirate Party of Canada Fund. <CCitizen> Now we'll have an update on the situation of the Party from the Political Council by the Party Leader Wilson <Wilson> ok. First I have an update on our media situation: https://wiki.pirateparty.ca/index.php?title=May_2014_Media_Reach_Report <Wilson> Additionally we have approached the other minor parties twice about joint actions (once over C-23 and once about joint action for proportional representation) <BrentSchaffrick> Facebook sucks more now too, since they dropped the % that you share that gets sent to your friends <webchat_2795> aye <Wilson> As far as policy development goes we are still on track to have it affirmed by the membership by the end of the year. We have had slight delays (generally a week) for each voting round due to quorum. I'd like to address this at the end of the meeting. <webchat_2795> yes sir <Wilson> Regarding personel: Shawn V. has announced he is leaving the PC due to taking a position that requires him be politically neutral. As such the GM will have to vote to accept his resignation. END <CCitizen> I'm personally of the mind that Facebook has always sucked but still it's a portal to get our message out there. You can shout all you want in an empty auditorium but at the end of the day you need to be where the people are. <BrentSchaffrick> Facebook is more like talking to a packed autitorium with a microphone that only works 2% of the time <CCitizen> Alright we'll move on that one even though it's out of order <CCitizen> Motion: Accept Shawn V.'s Resignation from the Political Council <BrentSchaffrick> second <CCitizen> Alright <CCitizen> Do we need any discussion on the topic? Seems just a case of personal issues coming up more than anything. <webchat_2795> tru dat <CCitizen> Alright then <CCitizen> VOTE: Accept Shawn V.'s resignation <webchat_2795> AYE aye aye <CCitizen> aye <webchat_2795> CHAD <webchat_2795> mah man webchat_2795 you are welcome to sit in the meeting, but please keep chatter to #canada-riffraff aye <RLim> AYE aye <BrentSchaffrick> aye <webchat_2795> ok phillip <CCitizen> VOTE CLOSED: 7 For, 0 Against, 0 Abstain. Motion Accepted. Shawn V. is no longer on the Political Council as we have accepted his resignation. <CCitizen> Alright now we'll move on to the next report which is from the Executive Board and will be given by Myself. <webchat_2795> hurray <MHoude> aye <webchat_2795> aye <CCitizen> The Leadership of the Party as a whole has been very busy in the past month. That said there are a few things we need to discuss. <CCitizen> The first is the continued vacancy of the IT Director. Last month we told people to contact the EB via email after the meeting if they were interested. So far we have only recieved one reply from René Kåbis. He meets the requirements of not being self-employed and having experience in the IT field. <webchat_2795> i think thats a great idea <CCitizen> The other thing that i feel a need to report on in advance is that our 12-month server contract with OVH is coming up due in August. At the time the pricing was the best we could get. We paid I believe it was $1559 last year. We have found hosting that is within the same datacenter with a different spinoff company called SoYouStart.com and it bills itself as providing entry level servers. Details can be found at http://www.soyoustart.com/ca/en <CCitizen> /offers.xml the setup we use is identical to the SYS-E32-3. Paying for 12 months in advance will cost $800 + miscelaneous fees (not expected to be more than $200) for additional IP addresses and such. However, we would need to migrate to the new server and would likely have to have an overlap of about 1 month as i would like to start our contract with SYS in July to ensure we have sufficient time to change everything over. <CCitizen> ( http://www.soyoustart.com/ca/en/offers.xml ) <- Sorry the link got eaten up in the middle of the post <CCitizen> Switching over means we will not qualify for the loyalty bonus from OVH but saving anywhere from $500-750 is well worth it. Also SYS offers the same loyalty pricing scheme OVH does so when we are done the next 12 months with them we will get an extra 3 months of hosting when we renew. <CCitizen> And that's my report if there are any questions <Wilson> Is there any non-obvious way we can get screwed over by switching? <Wilson> (server hosting) <BrentSchaffrick> want me to motion to accept René Kåbis as IT Director? <CCitizen> Naw that would be something better left to the EB to handle since they handle appointing of the IT director it's just an update <BrentSchaffrick> ok Wilson: can't think of any besides technical risk & recovery <CCitizen> Actually I'm not entirely sure but we might not have as many IP addresses available to us. i'm not sure if they'd give us an entire block of addresses like OVH did. <CCitizen> Right now I think we have a block in such a fashion we have like 16 public IP addresses available for our use <Wilson> How many do we need currently/in the near future and do they offer them? <CCitizen> I would have to contact them and get some more details I'm suspecting the pricing scheme for more IP addresses may be similar to what it was on OVH though. <Wilson> As long as we can meet our needs and its less expensive I'm in favour. thx CC <CCitizen> Alright anyone else? IPv6 would solve the issue, but I a seeing almost zero migration in so far. <CCitizen> Well since we've got no IT director to give an IT report and the PDC still needs a head we'll skip ahead to any old business from previous GM's <RLim> phillipsjk: there might still be compatibility issues with ipv6 Yes, I checked all the back-bone providers for my web-host: the cable companies have not migrated at all. MOTION: Amend the constitution to strike "The positions of President, Vice-President and Secretary shall not be eligible to hold a position on the Political Council." from Article IV. This would have to go out as an all-party vote. <RLim> would that take care of allowing EB officers on PC but prevent dual officer position? Current constitution without quorum amendment: https://wiki.pirateparty.ca/index.php?title=Constitution_2012-06-20 RLim I believe so. <CCitizen> I think as long as it prevents one person from securing two officer positions I'm fine with it "No Individual may hold more than one officer position." would still be in effect. <CCitizen> Sounds good to me <CCitizen> Do we need to vote to send it to the all-party ballot or does it just send it automatically? Perhaps my motion was not precisely worded :) second <CCitizen> Alright then <CCitizen> phillipsjk, wasnt that the one we agreed on last GM? I gave notice only last GM <CCitizen> Alright <CCitizen> VOTE: MOTION: Amend the constitution to strike "The positions of President, Vice-President and Secretary shall not be eligible to hold a position on the Political Council." from Article IV. ( This will be sent to an All-Party Ballot ) <BrentSchaffrick> aye aye aye <CCitizen> aye aye <Wilson> aye aye <RLim> aye <CCitizen> VOTE CLOSED: For: 8, Against: 0, Abstain: 0. Motion Accepted. <CCitizen> Now do we have any new business? <CCitizen> Right I believe we have a Candidate who wants to get confirmed for a Riding... I think Wilson had the details There are reports Canada is going to cave in the TPP on Copyright term extension - http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/7130/125/ <Wilson> We currently have a prospective candidate for the riding of Edmonton-Strathcona. He has been interviewed by the leadership and no problems were found. Name: Anthony Mayfield. Currently not present <CCitizen> Alright <Wilson> The question is: do we hold this vote if he is not here <CCitizen> Anyone want to discuss it or just move to voting? <CCitizen> We have done it before and he's actually expressed the interest in running as a candidate My full-slate fantasies rely on riding associations doing the vetting. <Wilson> We ,as of yet, have no riding associations <CCitizen> I would love to run a full slate of candidates at some point <Wilson> My full-slate fantasies rely on having candidates <CCitizen> but that would require $308,000 to pull off and that's without a campaign :( <CCitizen> Anyways do we want to vote on this without him here? I say we could I mean the PC obviously wants him in the position and they can only confirm candidates during election time so it's up to the GM <CCitizen> VOTE: Confirm Anthony Mayfield as candidate for the Edmonton-Strathcona riding. Motion: Confirm Anthony Mayfield as a candidate for Edmonton-Strathcona. <BrentSchaffrick> go for it <BrentSchaffrick> second <CCitizen> Ok vote on it since we already discuss it aye <BrentSchaffrick> aye <CCitizen> aye <Wilson> aye abstain... sorry guys, I didn't follow the discussion with the gentlemen. I shall let you decide. aye aye <RLim> aye <CCitizen> VOTE CLOSED: For 7, Against: 0, Abstain: 1. Motion Accepted. <CCitizen> That said I think there is no more business so unless anyone is objecting... Motion to Adjourn. <Wilson> aye <CCitizen> aye aye aye aye aye <CCitizen> Alright 5 Ayes, nobody against... See you next month everyone. Same time and place. <CCitizen> Meeting Adjourned.
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